From directory-dev-return-250-apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Wed Dec 03 15:03:31 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 10711 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 15:03:30 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 15:03:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 53053 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2003 15:03:08 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52983 invoked by uid 500); 3 Dec 2003 15:03:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact directory-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list directory-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52933 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 15:03:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (209.237.227.194) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 15:03:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 10622 invoked from network); 3 Dec 2003 15:03:23 -0000 Received: from host190-154.pool80204.interbusiness.it (HELO apache.org) (80.204.154.190) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 3 Dec 2003 15:03:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3FCDFA72.40804@apache.org> Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:00:02 +0100 From: Nicola Ken Barozzi User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6b) Gecko/20031119 Thunderbird/0.4a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Apache Directory Developers List Subject: Re: Directory IRC channel on irc.freenode.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Noel J. Bergman wrote: ... > My point was that when those discussions happen, the e-mailed logs > will provide a means for others to see what was said. Exactly why I think logs should not take place. Others should not be able to see what was said at all. If others not on IRC have to know, it has to be said on the mailing list. Not having a log makes it clear for those talking there that there will be no other mean whatsoever for others to know what was said, except posting a summary on the list. Note though that this particular point about not having logs is just MHO, not a policy. The policy is that discussion must happen on the lists, and I know we agree on that. Sorry for confusing the two in a single mail, as it seemed that I was disagreeing with you in toto, which is not the case. > If there is a problem with IRC abuse, people will see it, and can > police it. +1 -- Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) ---------------------------------------------------------------------