Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 45130 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 04:17:35 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 04:17:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 84805 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 84740 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Mailing-List: contact directory-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list directory-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 84726 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hume.tsdinc.steitz.com) (209.249.229.10) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 04:17:15 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Received: from Lavoie.tsdinc.steitz.com ([209.249.229.4]) by hume.tsdinc.steitz.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:17:16 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Received: from steitz.com ([130.13.97.80]) by Lavoie.tsdinc.steitz.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 23:17:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAC04B.50709@steitz.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 21:15:07 -0700 From: "Phil Steitz" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Subject: Re: Logo References: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2003 04:17:16.0877 (UTC) FILETIME=[013C3FD0:01C3B7C2] X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Noel J. Bergman wrote: >>But the "tree of knowledge" *is* a religious reference ;-) > > > It exists in many cultural myths. OK... > > >>I just don't particularly like the religious undertones or the >>"predetermined, written-in-stone" connotation of the tree of >>knowledge, though. > > > Huh? From where did you get the idea that the Tree of Knowledge implies any > sort of pre-determined, written-in-stone, anything? The Christian scholastic tradition started by Thomas Acquinas and continuing through the Rationalists, e.g. DesCartes: http://www.rep.routledge.com/article/DA026SECT2 The Thomist use of this metaphor was heavy on absolutism (going back to Plato and Aristotle). That is what I was referring to. Sorry to be culturally myopic... > > >>Dynamic config! Dynamic identities! Dynamic schema! > > > Trees grow. Their structure changes dynamically. They can be pruned and > manipulated. > > >>part of what Eve is enabling is lots of distributed trees >>instead of one great big central "definitive source." > > > Yes ... and one of the interesting ideas that just popped into mind is the > Aspen tree. Aspen would be an interesting name, too. Why? An entire > Aspen grove is actually one tree. Yeah. This is good. That's like the Sierpinski triangle, though using trees, which is better. > > ref: http://members.tripod.com/~bbowles/aspentrees.html Beautiful shot... > > --- Noel >