From directory-dev-return-190-apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Mon Dec 01 03:43:56 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 36356 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 03:43:55 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 03:43:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 71496 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 03:43:37 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-directory-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 71426 invoked by uid 500); 1 Dec 2003 03:43:37 -0000 Mailing-List: contact directory-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Apache Directory Developers List" Reply-To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list directory-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 71413 invoked from network); 1 Dec 2003 03:43:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hume.tsdinc.steitz.com) (209.249.229.10) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Dec 2003 03:43:36 -0000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Received: from Lavoie.tsdinc.steitz.com ([209.249.229.4]) by hume.tsdinc.steitz.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:43:37 -0500 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Received: from steitz.com ([130.13.97.80]) by Lavoie.tsdinc.steitz.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Sun, 30 Nov 2003 22:43:37 -0500 Message-ID: <3FCAB868.70904@steitz.com> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2003 20:41:28 -0700 From: "Phil Steitz" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020830 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Apache Directory Developers List" Subject: Re: Logo References: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Dec 2003 03:43:37.0392 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D874B00:01C3B7BD] X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N > > Because the data model for a Directory Server *is* a tree, so refering to > the Tree of Knowledge is nice imagery, particularly when we use JNDI > capabilities of the Directory Server to federate multiple data domains. I > wasn't making any particular religious reference. But the "tree of knowledge" *is* a religious reference ;-) I understand and agree with the point that at least in terms of addressing, ldap is tree-oriented, so some sort of tree symbol makes sense. I just don't particularly like the religious undertones or the "predetermined, written-in-stone" connotation of the tree of knowledge, though. Dynamic config! Dynamic identities! Dynamic schema! These things are hard, but I am sure that Eve will find a way. Maybe I am more thinking in terms of the tree after Eve started to have at it :-) Slightly more seriously, I also see ldap directories as much more general than just "config or identity knowledge stores." It might also be nice to capture some of Eve's embeddability in the logo -- i.e., part of what Eve is enabling is lots of distributed trees instead of one great big central "definitive source." Phil > > Two other good tree references: > > http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/t/telperion.html > http://www.glyphweb.com/arda/l/laurelin.html > > But I would avoid using Tolkien names, since I suspect that the Estate wants > to maintain control over their use. > > --- Noel >