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From Reza Naghibi <>
Subject Re: Marketing material approval votes?
Date Mon, 30 Mar 2015 18:51:13 GMT
Its not really the technical hurdle of maintaining multiple branches or
modules, its the management side of it, or more specifically the PMC. Will
this project be able to properly foster and guide 2.0 to success? We cannot
deny its been a rollercoaster ride to this point and I think we all share
blame in not seeing the warning signs. I admit, since becoming heavily
involved, my agenda has been to move away from the legacy OpenDDR client. I
can say that I have not been successful in uniting the project around 1.x
client (either that or we just have an extremely vocal resistance).

Right now there are no new committers since no code for 2.0 has been
actually written. So point taken Bertrand, my idea to rebuild the PMC is a
bit premature since there are no obvious candidates right now.

This is kind of my conundrum... is it safe to plow forward with 2.0? In my
view, nothing has changed.

Will web technology wait for us? Is this a project or a playground? How
well can a democratic project handle competing goals?

Sorry for the rhetorical questions.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Werner Keil <> wrote:

> Hi,
> At least regarding some who showed their interest and will to contribute
> like Volkan (who submitted things more than just once on JIRA including
> patches, etc.) we all as PMC have not followed up on those (probably just
> one or two) more dedicated prospects. I sent this on the "private" mailing
> list, not sure what happened to the thread, or of anybody (except Bertrand
> maybe) is properly subscribed to that list...?
> Projects like Tamaya are still taking shape and the API is discussed, but
> onboarding of one or the other new committer happened a bit more smoothly.
> Developong new ideas and branches next to each other, this happens in many
> projects. Take Tomcat or Commons Config:
> The 1.x and 2.x branch exist side by side. Also in SVN btw.
> Werner
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:47 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz <
> > wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Reza Naghibi <> wrote:
> > > ...If there was a way to reboot, maybe re-enter the incubator and
> reform
> > the
> > > PMC, I would do that in a second....
> >
> > A PMC is formed out of the project's committers, so if you have people
> > in mind who would help make what you think is right happen, why don't
> > you ask them to get involved here?
> >
> > Also, the way things happen in Apache projects is by creating and
> > committing code - what prevents you from implementing your ideas? They
> > can always go to a new module if others want to keep the existing code
> > as is.
> >
> > -Bertrand
> >

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