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From "John D. Ament" <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] re-visit "annotation" package/s
Date Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:22:47 GMT
Mark,

In this case it's about the related tooling that broke.  Until JBIDE fixes
this, users will end up with the wrong annotations in their code.

IMHO, I'm not saying no we can't change things like this, but if we do
change them and there are known downstream impacts for tools that support
DS we should let those tools know what we are doing before we make the
change.

John


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> wrote:

> nope, TLP only means maturity on the social/community side.
>
> For any users it's just a matter of 2 minutes doing a search/replace on
> the imports and then rebuild their app.
> That's nothing which we cannot do easily.
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > To: gudnabrsam@gmail.com; deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] re-visit "annotation" package/s
> >
> > I dont fully agree even if i get you. For a bunch of people tlp =
> maturity
> > = stability
> > Le 2 avr. 2013 21:47, "Matt Benson" <gudnabrsam@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >>  I would agree with Gerhard that TLP and 1.0 are not necessarily linked
> >>  concepts.  I would think most developers would not be surprised by the
> idea
> >>  that any release number < 1.0 is not guaranteed not to change.
> >>
> >>  Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Cody Lerum <cody.lerum@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>  > Works for me. I was only using @Excludes and I can just switch to
> >>  @Typed()
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM, John D. Ament
> > <john.d.ament@gmail.com
> >>  > >wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  > > If that's the case, we should target it for 0.4 and forward.
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>  > rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>  > > >wrote:
> >>  > >
> >>  > > > +1 after first tlp release to be exact
> >>  > > > Le 2 avr. 2013 20:38, "John D. Ament"
> > <john.d.ament@gmail.com> a
> >>  > écrit :
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > > > Once DS is a TLP, we should try avoiding breaking
> > integrations.
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gerhard Petracek <
> >>  > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com
> >>  > > > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > > > that can happen until v1 (and not until deltaspike
> > is a tlp).
> >>  > > > > > (it was one of our first agreements.)
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > regards,
> >>  > > > > > gerhard
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > 2013/4/2 Romain Manni-Bucau
> > <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > Think people know ds is not yet a tlp so some
> > instability is
> >>  fine
> >>  > > > IMHO
> >>  > > > > > > Le 2 avr. 2013 20:00, "Cody Lerum"
> > <cody.lerum@gmail.com> a
> >>  > écrit
> >>  > > :
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > One small problem is the early
> > integration of DS into JBoss
> >>  > > Tools -
> >>  > > > > > > >
> > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-13901
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > I don't know how many people if any
> > are using that
> >>  integration
> >>  > > yet.
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Pete
> > Muir <pmuir@redhat.com>
> >>  > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > +1 to drop, I hate them.
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > On 1 Apr 2013, at 10:06, Christian
> > Kaltepoth <
> >>  > > > > christian@kaltepoth.de
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > > +1 for dropping
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/31 Cody Lerum
> > <cody.lerum@gmail.com>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >> drop em.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at
> > 10:35 AM, Mark Struberg <
> >>  > > > > > struberg@yahoo.de>
> >>  > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> yes, let's drop
> > them. annotations are like interfaces
> >>  > > > nowadays.
> >>  > > > > > So
> >>  > > > > > > > this
> >>  > > > > > > > > >> is
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> just superfluous.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> LieGrue,
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> strub
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> ----- Original Message
> > -----
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> From: Gerhard
> > Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> To:
> > deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> Cc:
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Sunday,
> > March 31, 2013 5:30 PM
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> Subject: [DISCUSS]
> > re-visit "annotation" package/s
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> hi @ all,
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> we had an
> > agreement to use a (sub-)package named
> >>  > > > "annotation"
> >>  > > > > > for
> >>  > > > > > > > all
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> our
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> annotations within
> > a package.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> however, it feels
> > a bit clumsy if a package
> >>  (currently)
> >>  > > just
> >>  > > > > > > > contains
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> annotations.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> e.g.
> > org.apache.deltaspike.core.api.exclude only
> >>  > contains
> >>  > > > the
> >>  > > > > > > > package
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > "annotation".
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> currently we have
> > a mixture (some parts are using the
> >>  > > > > > "annotation"
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> package
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> and some
> > don't)
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> -> we have to
> > align it the one way or the other.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> i'm currently
> > in favour of dropping the
> >>  > > > > "annotation"-package/s.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> regards,
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> gerhard
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > > --
> >>  > > > > > > > > > Christian Kaltepoth
> >>  > > > > > > > > > Blog:
> > http://blog.kaltepoth.de/
> >>  > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
> > http://twitter.com/chkal
> >>  > > > > > > > > > GitHub:
> > https://github.com/chkal
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > >
> >>  > >
> >>  >
> >>
> >
>

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