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From Jason Porter <lightguard...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] re-visit "annotation" package/s
Date Tue, 02 Apr 2013 21:14:57 GMT
We understand what it means, but many out in the wild don't understand
that, and I think Romain is correct that many view it as "oh, this is
stable and production ready now."


On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> wrote:

> nope, TLP only means maturity on the social/community side.
>
> For any users it's just a matter of 2 minutes doing a search/replace on
> the imports and then rebuild their app.
> That's nothing which we cannot do easily.
>
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > To: gudnabrsam@gmail.com; deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Cc:
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 10:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] re-visit "annotation" package/s
> >
> > I dont fully agree even if i get you. For a bunch of people tlp =
> maturity
> > = stability
> > Le 2 avr. 2013 21:47, "Matt Benson" <gudnabrsam@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >>  I would agree with Gerhard that TLP and 1.0 are not necessarily linked
> >>  concepts.  I would think most developers would not be surprised by the
> idea
> >>  that any release number < 1.0 is not guaranteed not to change.
> >>
> >>  Matt
> >>
> >>
> >>  On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Cody Lerum <cody.lerum@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>  > Works for me. I was only using @Excludes and I can just switch to
> >>  @Typed()
> >>  >
> >>  >
> >>  > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 12:57 PM, John D. Ament
> > <john.d.ament@gmail.com
> >>  > >wrote:
> >>  >
> >>  > > If that's the case, we should target it for 0.4 and forward.
> >>  > >
> >>  > >
> >>  > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> >>  > rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>  > > >wrote:
> >>  > >
> >>  > > > +1 after first tlp release to be exact
> >>  > > > Le 2 avr. 2013 20:38, "John D. Ament"
> > <john.d.ament@gmail.com> a
> >>  > écrit :
> >>  > > >
> >>  > > > > Once DS is a TLP, we should try avoiding breaking
> > integrations.
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Gerhard Petracek <
> >>  > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com
> >>  > > > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > > > > that can happen until v1 (and not until deltaspike
> > is a tlp).
> >>  > > > > > (it was one of our first agreements.)
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > regards,
> >>  > > > > > gerhard
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > 2013/4/2 Romain Manni-Bucau
> > <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > Think people know ds is not yet a tlp so some
> > instability is
> >>  fine
> >>  > > > IMHO
> >>  > > > > > > Le 2 avr. 2013 20:00, "Cody Lerum"
> > <cody.lerum@gmail.com> a
> >>  > écrit
> >>  > > :
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > One small problem is the early
> > integration of DS into JBoss
> >>  > > Tools -
> >>  > > > > > > >
> > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/JBIDE-13901
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > I don't know how many people if any
> > are using that
> >>  integration
> >>  > > yet.
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Pete
> > Muir <pmuir@redhat.com>
> >>  > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > +1 to drop, I hate them.
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > On 1 Apr 2013, at 10:06, Christian
> > Kaltepoth <
> >>  > > > > christian@kaltepoth.de
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > > +1 for dropping
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/31 Cody Lerum
> > <cody.lerum@gmail.com>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >> drop em.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >> On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at
> > 10:35 AM, Mark Struberg <
> >>  > > > > > struberg@yahoo.de>
> >>  > > > > > > > > wrote:
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> yes, let's drop
> > them. annotations are like interfaces
> >>  > > > nowadays.
> >>  > > > > > So
> >>  > > > > > > > this
> >>  > > > > > > > > >> is
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> just superfluous.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> LieGrue,
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> strub
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>> ----- Original Message
> > -----
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> From: Gerhard
> > Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> To:
> > deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> Cc:
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> Sent: Sunday,
> > March 31, 2013 5:30 PM
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> Subject: [DISCUSS]
> > re-visit "annotation" package/s
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> hi @ all,
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> we had an
> > agreement to use a (sub-)package named
> >>  > > > "annotation"
> >>  > > > > > for
> >>  > > > > > > > all
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> our
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> annotations within
> > a package.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> however, it feels
> > a bit clumsy if a package
> >>  (currently)
> >>  > > just
> >>  > > > > > > > contains
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> annotations.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> e.g.
> > org.apache.deltaspike.core.api.exclude only
> >>  > contains
> >>  > > > the
> >>  > > > > > > > package
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > "annotation".
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> currently we have
> > a mixture (some parts are using the
> >>  > > > > > "annotation"
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> package
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> and some
> > don't)
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> -> we have to
> > align it the one way or the other.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> i'm currently
> > in favour of dropping the
> >>  > > > > "annotation"-package/s.
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> regards,
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>> gerhard
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >>
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > > > --
> >>  > > > > > > > > > Christian Kaltepoth
> >>  > > > > > > > > > Blog:
> > http://blog.kaltepoth.de/
> >>  > > > > > > > > > Twitter:
> > http://twitter.com/chkal
> >>  > > > > > > > > > GitHub:
> > https://github.com/chkal
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > > >
> >>  > > > > >
> >>  > > > >
> >>  > > >
> >>  > >
> >>  >
> >>
> >
>



-- 
Jason Porter
http://en.gravatar.com/lightguardjp

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