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From "John D. Ament" <john.d.am...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: DeltaSpike Roadmap
Date Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:20:41 GMT
The example I linked to shows how they do form level validation.

Their command button:

<p:commandButton value="Save" actionListener="#{userController.saveUser}"
oncomplete="handleComplete(xhr, status, args)" />

and javascript:


   1. <script type="text/javascript">
   2. function handleComplete(xhr, status, args) {
   3.     if(args.validationFailed) {
   4.         PrimeFaces.debug("Validation Failed");
   5.     }
   6.     else {
   7.         PrimeFaces.debug("Save:" + args.saved);
   8.         PrimeFaces.debug("FirstName: " + args.user.firstname +
   ", Lastname: " + args.user.lastname);
   9.     }
   10. }
   11. </script>



On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:10 PM, Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry but i didn't get it and i know primefaces very good.
> Why is RequestContext an alternative for s:validateForm?
>
> 2013/3/25 John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
>
> > They have it, it uses a little bit of javascript:
> >
> > http://www.primefaces.org/showcase/ui/requestContext.jsf
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM, Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Are you sure? PrimeFaces does not have one. I only know richfaces'
> > > graphValidator and it's IMO not that easy and cool as s:validateForm.
> > >
> > > 2013/3/25 John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > I believe all of the major JSF component libraries support some type
> of
> > > > form validation using BV.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Any news about s:validateForm?
> > > > > As i said, it's great feature of seam3 and would perfectly fit DS
> > > (IMO).
> > > > >
> > > > > I could also add it to DS if no one have enough time... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/12/17 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > there is a reason why it is just an add-on ;)
> > > > > > and yes, if you would do it with the jsf2-api, it would be a
bit
> > > > easier.
> > > > > > but you can use this add-on also for jsf 1.x and some users
who
> > don't
> > > > > like
> > > > > > to use seam are happy with it.
> > > > > > however, i just mentioned it as an example to show that cdi
isn't
> > > > needed
> > > > > to
> > > > > > implement such a functionality.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2012/12/17 Lincoln Baxter, III <lincolnbaxter@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Also, note that the use-cases for <s:validateForm>
and the
> latter
> > > > > example
> > > > > > > are different in their usage. IMO, <s:validateForm>
is much
> more
> > > > > > > declarative and simple than the example provided from extval.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Just write a validator and attach it like you would normal
to a
> > > > > component
> > > > > > > in the view, wherever you want to use it. You can also
re-use
> > > > > > > form-validators using this method, instead of using some
(in my
> > > > > opinion)
> > > > > > > strange view-filtering logic in the FormValidator annotation.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <s:validateForm> is/was one of the most well recieved
feature
> of
> > > Seam
> > > > > > > Faces, and I think it deserves serious consideration. Can
you
> do
> > > form
> > > > > > > validation other ways? absolutely, but this way is pretty
> > > compelling
> > > > > > based
> > > > > > > on the feedback we got. It also ties in very normally with
the
> > way
> > > in
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > > JSF handles validation and components, which is not something
> > that
> > > I
> > > > > can
> > > > > > > speak about with regard to extval, but I can say that seam
> faces
> > > does
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > nicely.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ~Lincoln
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > > > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please do not mix both :)
> > > > > > > > We had the discussion about commons bv constrains.
> > s:validateForm
> > > > is
> > > > > > > > completely different compared to bv constraints.
> > > > > > > > s:validateForm does not fit the project for common
bv
> > > constraints.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Karl Kildén <karl.kilden@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Looks really nice I understand finally :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In retrospect I don't know why I didn't check
the docs
> > myself,
> > > > > > probably
> > > > > > > > > because I read most of the discussion on the
phone to begin
> > > with.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I then agree with the many suggestions regarding
doing it
> as
> > a
> > > > > > parallel
> > > > > > > > > project. Perhaps that module could have a  sub
module for
> CDI
> > > > users
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > included producers and such.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best regards / Karl
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > hi karl,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > it's implemented via a producer - see [1].
> > > > > > > > > > but you don't really need cdi for it - see
e.g. [2].
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > [1] http://s.apache.org/ury
> > > > > > > > > > [2]
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://os890.blogspot.co.at/2010/06/multi-field-form-validation-with-jsr.html
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > As far as i understand, validateAll
just validates all
> > > > > components
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > can't use custom logic.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Checkout the seam docu here:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://docs.jboss.org/seam/3/faces/latest/reference/en-US/html/components.html
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Karl Kildén <karl.kilden@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hrmm still not sure I understand.
First off didn't
> Pete
> > > > just
> > > > > > say
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > > > just a JSF-validator? It also
sounds and reads just
> > like
> > > > > > > > validateAll
> > > > > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > > > > > omnifaces?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > What is lacking that you would
like to see solved by
> > CDI?
> > > > And
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > it a
> > > > > > > > > > > > natural fit for CDI extensions
rather then BV / JSF
> > > > > extensions?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards / Karl
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Thomas Andraschko <
> > > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > they are nice but i can't
see a replacement for
> > > > > > s:validateForm.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > IMO s:validateForm is really
a simple solution for
> > > > > > cross-field
> > > > > > > > > > > > validation,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > which is CDI based.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > THomas
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Karl Kildén <karl.kilden@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well these are the validators
from omnifaces as
> per
> > > my
> > > > > > > previous
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommendation:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - RequiredCheckboxValidator<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/RequiredCheckboxValidator.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateAll<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateAll.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateAllOrNone<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateAllOrNone.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateEqual<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateEqual.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateOne<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOne.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateOneOrMore<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOneOrMore.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateOneOrNone<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOneOrNone.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateOrder<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOrder.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    - validateUnique
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateUnique.xhtml
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Best
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    regards / Karl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Thomas Andraschko
<
> > > > > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PrimeFaces doesn't
have such a
> component/utility.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also AFAICS it's
based on CDI, so IMO
> DeltaSpike
> > > is a
> > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > place
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Jason
Porter <
> lightguard.jp@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec
17, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Pete Muir <
> > > > > > > > pmuir@redhat.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 17
Dec 2012, at 08:55, Gerhard Petracek
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
hi karl,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
#1 apache myfaces (extval) doesn't
> > implement
> > > > jsr
> > > > > > 303
> > > > > > > > > (e.g.
> > > > > > > > > > > > apache
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
bval implements it)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
#2 there is no agreement that ds is only
> > > > backend
> > > > > > > > oriented
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
gerhard
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
2012/12/17 Karl Kildén <
> > > karl.kilden@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
Hi Thomas, fellow user here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
BV is as you may know specified in
> > JSR-303.
> > > It
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementations
by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
myfaces and hibernate that you can find
> > > > easily.
> > > > > > Thus
> > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
implemented in deltaspike afaik. However
> > > > > providing
> > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > common
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constraints
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
beyond the specification sounds like a
> > good
> > > > > idea.
> > > > > > > Note
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mean
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
while @Email is almost trivial to
> > implement
> > > > > > yourself
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > search
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
little. JSR-303 is highly extensible
> just
> > > like
> > > > > > CDI.
> > > > > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implementation
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
choose might have it as an extra
> already.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
For frontend extras I can't say I see an
> > > > obvious
> > > > > > > home
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > deltaspike
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
(someone correct me if I am wrong about
> > > this).
> > > > > > But I
> > > > > > > > > think
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > now
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
Deltaspike is more backend oriented. I
> > > > recommend
> > > > > > > > having
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > look
> > > > > > > > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > omnifaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
that already provide several great
> custom
> > > > > > > > jsf-validators
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > open
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
request for users to ask for additional
> > > ones.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
best regards / Karl
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
2012/12/16 Thomas Andraschko <
> > > > > > > > > andraschko.thomas@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
is there a roadmap available for all
> > > upcoming
> > > > > > > > features?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
Will there also be a BV module in the
> > > future?
> > > > > > Will
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > include
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
commons constraints like Email?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm,
I think this could be a good thing
> for a
> > > > > > parallel
> > > > > > > > > > project
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > DeltaSpike
actually - a library of BV
> > > constraints
> > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > branded
> > > > > > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > specific
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > impl.
I've cc'd Emmanuel, spec lead for BV,
> > to
> > > > see
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > plans
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > such
a thing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
What about the Seam s:validateForm? IMO
> > > it's
> > > > a
> > > > > > > simple
> > > > > > > > > way
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > cross
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > field
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
validation. Will this be added in
> future
> > > > > > releases?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This
is not actually a BV validator, but a
> > JSF
> > > > > > > > validator. I
> > > > > > > > > > > know
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Mark
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > working
on JSF stuff for DeltaSpike atm,
> > > perhaps
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could
add to that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is this something
that belongs in DeltaSpike,
> > or
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > JSF
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component
library? I know RichFaces has
> > something
> > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > similar, I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PrimeFaces
does as well (haven't looked for a
> > > > while)
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > idea
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about other
component libraries.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
How can i contribue to DeltaSpike? I
> > could
> > > do
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > smaller
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tasks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
problems.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
I also implemented constraints like
> > > > > > > > > > > > EqualsExpression("#{...}").
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
could be useful for other users, too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This
page should help -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > http://deltaspike.staging.apache.org/deltaspike/community.html
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
Best regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
Thomas
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason Porter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://twitter.com/lightguardjp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Software Engineer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Open Source
Advocate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PGP key id:
926CCFF5
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > PGP key available
at: keyserver.net,
> > pgp.mit.edu
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Lincoln Baxter, III
> > > > > > > http://ocpsoft.org
> > > > > > > "Simpler is better."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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