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From Thomas Hug <thomas....@ctp-consulting.com>
Subject Re: cdi-query, no news?
Date Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:41:51 GMT
Thnx for the remarks Gerhard!

- @Query: Good point, looks more consistent to me too.
- NonEntity was AFAIR introduced to make it more explicit that the Entity
class comes from somewhere else. I don't think we need it - if nobody
prefers the explicit style then I'd favor removing it.
- Not sure if I get the next point - the EntityManager comes always from a
producer and is looked up in the Impl classes (and I guess injection won't
work in InvocationHandlerBinding beans anyway). The methods from
EntityRepository and AbstractEntityRepository are not meant to be
implemented by a client. There's only a getEntityManager() on the
AbstractEntityRepository to be used by concrete query methods which you
don't have with an interface-based repository.

@Repository
public interface PersonRepository extends EntityRepository <Person, Long> {
     Person findBySsn(String ssn);
}

public abstract class PersonRepository extends
AbstractEntityRepository<Person, Long> {
    public List<Person> findByXY(X x, Y y) {
        // some logic
        return getEntityManager().createQuery(query).getResultList();
    }
}

- saveAndFlush will simply call flush after persist/merge instead of
waiting for it at the transaction commit. Can have impact on following
queries.

Confluence updates to follow. Hope that helps...

On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Gerhard Petracek <
gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:

> hi thomas,
>
> i would prefer e.g.
> Query#value + Query#isNative (false as the default)
> instead of
> Query#value + Query#sql
>
> and it would be great to get additional information about the need of:
>
>  - NonEntity (as the default)
>  - AbstractEntityRepository
>    (e.g. you can pass in the EntityManager as parameter or inject it.
>     you would need it e.g. for EntityRepository#save,... - but in
> EntityRepository it isn't part of the contract...)
>  - (EntityRepository#saveAndFlush as the only combined operation)
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2013/3/14 Thomas Hug <thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com>
>
> > Thnx for the pointers. Started to outline the APIs here [1] with examples
> > in decreasing priority.
> >
> > [1]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/Repository+Drafts
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > +1
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > gerhard
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/3/14 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > ok great,
> > > >
> > > > wonder if we couldn't start by a first version without such
> > > extensibility +
> > > > no scopes for queries?
> > > >
> > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/3/14 Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > hi romain,
> > > > >
> > > > > no - it's more about the style we introduced e.g. for type-safe
> > > messages.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > gerhard
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2013/3/14 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > @Gerhard: hope you don't think of @RepoBinding at all...would be
> > too
> > > > much
> > > > > > IMO. Would be great to support aliases/stereotype maybe but not
> the
> > > > > default
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wdyt?
> > > > > > Le 14 mars 2013 00:11, "Gerhard Petracek" <
> > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
> > > > a
> > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hi thomas,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > imo it should follow the basic style/s we have in other parts
> > > already
> > > > > (if
> > > > > > > possible).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > i guess the simple implementations in the test-module are too
> > > simple
> > > > to
> > > > > > see
> > > > > > > the real benefit.
> > > > > > > -> it would be nice if you add some drafts to a sub-page of
> [1].
> > > > > > > (the usage you would prefer and not as it is right now.)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [1]
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/DeltaSpike/Drafts
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2013/3/13 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > i'd put it in to start since that's useful for JPA but it
> > > shouldn't
> > > > > use
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > at all
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > a question (for next iteration if that's ok for everybody) is
> > > > should
> > > > > > > repos
> > > > > > > > handle transaction or at least define it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > > > > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > > > > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2013/3/13 John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Does this have any direct/indirect dependencies on JPA
> > module?
> > > > > Should
> > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > maybe become a part of the JPA module?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 7:23 AM, Thomas Hug
> > > > > > > > > <thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ok, I guess it's going to be Repository :) Updated the
> > > proposal
> > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > also moved things into a data package/module.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Some remarks for the parts below:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 1) EntityManagerRepository wasn't present in the Solder
> > > > > > > implementation
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > > there it was possible to simply implement/extend
> > > EntityManager.
> > > > > The
> > > > > > > > > problem
> > > > > > > > > > with the invocation handler is that it's not possible to
> > > > restrict
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > bean
> > > > > > > > > > type and exclude EntityManager (or I missed it).
> Otherwise
> > > I'd
> > > > > > rather
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > rid of this interface.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2) WithEntityManager is definitely discussable. Not the
> > full
> > > > > > solution
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > not consistent. Could be solved with e.g. putting
> > qualifiers
> > > > on a
> > > > > > > > method
> > > > > > > > > > returning an EntityManager (less intuitive) or something
> > like
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > InvocationHandlerBinding.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 3) AbstractEntityRepository is just a convenience class
> for
> > > > > > providing
> > > > > > > > > > concrete query implementations.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Gerhard Petracek <
> > > > > > > > > > gerhard.petracek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > currently we don't have one jira ticket per
> part/feature.
> > > > > > > > > > > that's what we used to have for everything we imported.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > the first parts to discuss are imo EntityManagerDao,
> > > > > > > > WithEntityManager
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > AbstractEntityDao.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/12 Arne Limburg <arne.limburg@openknowledge.de>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 for repository, from me too
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gesendet mit meinem HTC
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Reply message -----
> > > > > > > > > > > > Von: "Thomas Andraschko" <
> andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > An: "deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org" <
> > > > > > > > > > > > deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Betreff: cdi-query, no news?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Datum: Di., Mär. 12, 2013 20:38
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 repository! :) "Query" doesn't really match the
> > > > > functionaly.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/12 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +2 for repo
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > btw did you fixed the scope issue?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <
> > > https://twitter.com/rmannibucau
> > > > >*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *LinkedIn: **
> http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/12 Thomas Hug <
> thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The name is still freely choosable - data sounds
> > fine
> > > > to
> > > > > me
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > nobody
> > > > > > > > > > > > > minds
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > the obvious mirroring on Spring Data ;) dao/@Dao
> is
> > > > > > > > discussable,
> > > > > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > domain driven folks prefer probably something
> like
> > > > > > > > "Repository".
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Romain
> Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <rmannibucau@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Great :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > any issue changing "query" to something closer
> to
> > > > what
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > > > > does ;
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "dao" (because of @Dao) or "data"?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <
> > > > > https://twitter.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > >*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *LinkedIn: **
> > > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *Github: https://gihub.com/rmannibucau* <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2013/3/12 Thomas Hug <
> > > thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FYI, I've started something like an import
> > > proposal
> > > > > in
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > dedicated
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > branch
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]. There's currently only the JBoss
> > Arquillian
> > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > > running,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > haven't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > looked at the others. Any support there and
> of
> > > > course
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > input's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > welcome :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1]
> > > > > > https://github.com/ctpconsulting/query/tree/dsimport
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:45 AM, Romain
> > > Manni-Bucau
> > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It works fine but you bring too much spring
> > > > > > > dependencies
> > > > > > > > > > > (totally
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > useless
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > when used this way) which clearly show it
> is
> > > > > rather a
> > > > > > > > > bridge
> > > > > > > > > > > > than a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution + there were some leaks in
> previous
> > > > > version
> > > > > > > > (didnt
> > > > > > > > > > > check
> > > > > > > > > > > > > fix
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > released to be honest) because if this
> usage
> > > > which
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > default
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since cdi query is here it worths importing
> > it
> > > > IMO
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 5 mars 2013 02:21, "hantsy" <
> > > > > hantsy@yahoo.com.cn>
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I remember the Spring Data has a CDI
> > > extension,
> > > > > > but I
> > > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > used
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in projects. Is there anyone used it in
> > Java
> > > > EE 6
> > > > > > > > > projects?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hantsy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3/3/2013 20:40, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically if the query logic could be
> > scope
> > > > > > > agnostic
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > perfect
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for me. Parameters were fine and
> matched
> > > the
> > > > > > coomon
> > > > > > > > > need.
> > > > > > > > > > > I m
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > get what is blocking. Can you detail
> it a
> > > bit
> > > > > > > please?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 3 mars 2013 13:09, "Thomas Hug" <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Aha got you. Yes QueryHandler can be
> > moved
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > application
> > > > > > > > > > > > > scope.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The other request scoped component ist
> > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CdiQueryInvocationContext.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> we store a bunch of data which is
> > related
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > current
> > > > > > > > > > > > query
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (parameters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> query string etc). Originally this was
> > > > passed
> > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > parameter,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > got
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> injectable for the extension mechanism
> > > [1].
> > > > > > > > Currently
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > holidays
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (sorry
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> the response delays) so not much time
> to
> > > > look
> > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > happy
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > take
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> suggestions :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> [1]
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://ctpconsulting.github.com/query/1.0.0.Alpha5/extensions.html#extension-delegates
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 8:18 PM, Romain
> > > > > > > Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hmm,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Wonder if the scope couldnt be
> > > application
> > > > > one.
> > > > > > > > > Request
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > too
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > much
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> web
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> to be usable/generic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Le 1 mars 2013 19:02, "Thomas Hug" <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Fine for me - planned to create a
> > branch
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > all
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > experimental
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > APIs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> cleared out as an import proposal.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> RE scope, the InvocationHandlers are
> > > > > validated
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > normal
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scoped
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1],
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> that seemed to me the most
> appropriate
> > > > > choice
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/DeltaSpike/Mirror/blob/master/deltaspike/core/impl/src/main/java/org/apache/deltaspike/core/impl/invocationhandler/InvocationHandlerBindingExtension.java#L198
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 1:15 PM,
> > Romain
> > > > > > > > Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> <rmannibucau@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> some news of it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> i think it is time to import at
> > least a
> > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > version,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> Just a note on current code, i saw
> > > > > > QueryHandler
> > > > > > > > > (and
> > > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> beans)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> has
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> a request scope. Wonder if such a
> > scope
> > > > > means
> > > > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > generic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> (not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> web) lib.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> wdyt?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <
> > > > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > >*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *Blog: **
> > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *LinkedIn: **
> > > > > > > > > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> *Github:
> > > https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> 2013/2/20 Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> guy you rocks!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> effectively i missed it when i
> > looked.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <
> > > > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > >*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> *Blog: **
> > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*
> > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> *LinkedIn: **
> > > > > > > > > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> *Github:
> > > > https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>> 2013/2/20 Thomas Hug <
> > > > > > > > > thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> Thnx Romain. If with proxy stuff
> > you
> > > > > refer
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > DS
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> InvocationHandlerBinding, that's
> > > > already
> > > > > > > > > integrated
> > > > > > > > > > > :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> RE pagination, it's maybe not
> that
> > > > > obvious,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> advanced
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> support in QueryResult [1][2],
> > which
> > > is
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > of a
> > > > > > > > > > > > fluent
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > API
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> approach,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> should behave similar to a
> > > PageRequest
> > > > > (the
> > > > > > > > query
> > > > > > > > > > > > > execution
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> delayed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> until the getResult() methods on
> > > > > > QueryResult
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > > called).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> fits
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> what you had in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> [1]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/ctpconsulting/query/blob/deltaspike/api/src/main/java/com/ctp/cdi/query/QueryResult.java
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> [2]
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://github.com/ctpconsulting/query/blob/deltaspike/impl/src/test/java/com/ctp/cdi/query/QueryResultTest.java
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 10:04 PM,
> > > > Romain
> > > > > > > > > > Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> <rmannibucau@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Hi Thomas,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> importing proxy stuff would be
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> i'd like to see some pagination
> > API
> > > > > (like
> > > > > > > > > > > PageRequest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > etc
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> spring
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> world)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> which are more user friendly
> that
> > > > > > > @FirstResult
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @MaxResult).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wdyt?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <
> > > > > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Blog: **
> > > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **
> > > > > > > > > > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> *Github:
> > > > > https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> 2013/2/20 Thomas Hug <
> > > > > > > > > > thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> CDI Query has now a completely
> > > > > > Solder-free
> > > > > > > > POM.
> > > > > > > > > > > Feel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> drop
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> comments
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> on the API - some parts might
> > > > actually
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > fully
> > > > > > > > > > > > > excluded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (e.g.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> home
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> critera APIs).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 10:00
> PM,
> > > > Mark
> > > > > > > > > Struberg <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> struberg@yahoo.de>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Thomas, great news!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> LieGrue,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> strub
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> From: Thomas Hug <
> > > > > > > > > > thomas.hug@ctp-consulting.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> To: "
> > > > > > deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > > > > > "
> > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>
> > > deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 12,
> > 2013
> > > > 4:10
> > > > > > PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: cdi-query, no
> > news?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> FYI, I've started to
> > > "de-solderize"
> > > > > CDI
> > > > > > > > Query
> > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > move
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> things
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> depend
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> DS Core [1]:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > https://github.com/ctpconsulting/query/tree/deltaspike
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Todos:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [x] Replace ServiceHandler
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [_] Include Property utils
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [_] Replace JBoss Logging
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Any feedback welcome.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> [1] including this
> modification
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-113?focusedCommentId=13576531&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-13576531
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 6:01
> > PM,
> > > > > Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> a review of the API i guess
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> what is missing today is
> > > probably
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > pagination
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > helpers
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> (PageRequest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> instance)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> but technically all is fine
> > IMO
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Twitter: @rmannibucau <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/rmannibucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> *
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Blog: **
> > > > > > > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*
> > > > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *LinkedIn: **
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> *Github:
> > > > > > > https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/2/11 Jason Porter <
> > > > > > > > > > lightguard.jp@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> I know I'm playing the
> > > > necromancer,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > please
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > forgive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> We
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> have
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> InvocationHandler, which
> > looks
> > > > like
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> ServiceHandler
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> substitute. What else is
> > needed
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > CDI
> > > > > > > > > > > Query
> > > > > > > > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> DeltaSpike?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at
> 12:35
> > > PM,
> > > > > > > Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1, it is a must have for
> > cdi
> > > > > world
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18 nov. 2012 20:04,
> > > > > > "john.d.ament"
> > > > > > > <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> john.d.ament@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RE ServiceHandler - I was
> > one
> > > > of
> > > > > > > those
> > > > > > > > > who
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> previously
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> suggested
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> bringing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over to DeltaSpike, you
> can
> > > see
> > > > > > > > > > > DELTASPIKE-113
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> find
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> thread
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from April of this year.
> >  At
> > > > the
> > > > > > > time,
> > > > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > > > > > > in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> position
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> where I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> couldn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend much time on open
> > > source
> > > > > > > > > > contribution.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >  I've
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> recently
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> changed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> jobs,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something that's going to
> > > help
> > > > me
> > > > > > > spend
> > > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> time
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>> with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> open
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> source
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community, and believe I
> > can
> > > > pick
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > back
> > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> we're
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> ready.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everyone's ok with it
> I
> > > can
> > > > > > start
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > thread
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> 113
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> revive
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> old
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thread (though it may
> come
> > > > > through
> > > > > > > > with a
> > > > > > > > > > > large
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> pile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> dust).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> View this message in
> > context:
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> > > > > > > > Incubator
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>> mailing
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jason Porter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > > > > http://en.gravatar.com/lightguardjp
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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