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From Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.tho...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: DeltaSpike Roadmap
Date Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:16:44 GMT
As far as i understand, validateAll just validates all components but you
can't use custom logic.

Checkout the seam docu here:
http://docs.jboss.org/seam/3/faces/latest/reference/en-US/html/components.html

2012/12/17 Karl Kildén <karl.kilden@gmail.com>

> Hrmm still not sure I understand. First off didn't Pete just say it was
> just a JSF-validator? It also sounds and reads just like validateAll from
> omnifaces?
>
> What is lacking that you would like to see solved by CDI? And is it a
> natural fit for CDI extensions rather then BV / JSF extensions?
>
> Best regards / Karl
>
>
>
> 2012/12/17 Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > they are nice but i can't see a replacement for s:validateForm.
> > IMO s:validateForm is really a simple solution for cross-field
> validation,
> > which is CDI based.
> >
> > Regards,
> > THomas
> >
> > 2012/12/17 Karl Kildén <karl.kilden@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Well these are the validators from omnifaces as per my previous
> > > recommendation:
> > >
> > >
> > >    - RequiredCheckboxValidator<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/RequiredCheckboxValidator.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateAll<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateAll.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateAllOrNone<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateAllOrNone.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateEqual<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateEqual.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateOne<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOne.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateOneOrMore<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOneOrMore.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateOneOrNone<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOneOrNone.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateOrder<
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateOrder.xhtml
> > > >
> > >    - validateUnique
> > >
> > >
> > >    <
> > >
> >
> https://showcase-omnifaces.rhcloud.com/showcase/validators/validateUnique.xhtml
> > > >Best
> > >    regards / Karl
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/12/17 Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > PrimeFaces doesn't have such a component/utility.
> > > > Also AFAICS it's based on CDI, so IMO DeltaSpike is a good place for
> > it.
> > > >
> > > > 2012/12/17 Jason Porter <lightguard.jp@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 4:54 AM, Pete Muir <pmuir@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 17 Dec 2012, at 08:55, Gerhard Petracek wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > hi karl,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > #1 apache myfaces (extval) doesn't implement jsr 303 (e.g.
> apache
> > > > > > > bval implements it)
> > > > > > > #2 there is no agreement that ds is only backend oriented
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > gerhard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2012/12/17 Karl Kildén <karl.kilden@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Thomas, fellow user here.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> BV is as you may know specified in JSR-303. It has
great
> > > > > > implementations by
> > > > > > >> myfaces and hibernate that you can find easily. Thus
this will
> > not
> > > > be
> > > > > > >> implemented in deltaspike afaik. However providing
some common
> > > > > > constraints
> > > > > > >> beyond the specification sounds like a good idea. Note
that in
> > the
> > > > > mean
> > > > > > >> while @Email is almost trivial to implement yourself
if you
> > search
> > > > it
> > > > > a
> > > > > > >> little. JSR-303 is highly extensible just like CDI.
The
> > > > implementation
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > >> choose might have it as an extra already.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> For frontend extras I can't say I see an obvious home
in
> > > deltaspike
> > > > > > >> (someone correct me if I am wrong about this). But
I think for
> > now
> > > > > > >> Deltaspike is more backend oriented. I recommend having
a look
> > at
> > > > > > omnifaces
> > > > > > >> that already provide several great custom jsf-validators
and
> has
> > > an
> > > > > open
> > > > > > >> request for users to ask for additional ones.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> best regards / Karl
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 2012/12/16 Thomas Andraschko <andraschko.thomas@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> is there a roadmap available for all upcoming features?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Will there also be a BV module in the future? Will
it also
> > > include
> > > > > some
> > > > > > >>> commons constraints like Email?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmm, I think this could be a good thing for a parallel project
to
> > > > > > DeltaSpike actually - a library of BV constraints not branded
by
> a
> > > > > specific
> > > > > > impl. I've cc'd Emmanuel, spec lead for BV, to see if he has
any
> > > plans
> > > > > for
> > > > > > such a thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> What about the Seam s:validateForm? IMO it's a
simple way for
> > > cross
> > > > > > field
> > > > > > >>> validation. Will this be added in future releases?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is not actually a BV validator, but a JSF validator. I
know
> > Mark
> > > > is
> > > > > > working on JSF stuff for DeltaSpike atm, perhaps this is
> something
> > > > Jason
> > > > > > could add to that.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is this something that belongs in DeltaSpike, or should it be in
a
> > JSF
> > > > > component library? I know RichFaces has something very similar, I
> > > believe
> > > > > PrimeFaces does as well (haven't looked for a while) and I have no
> > idea
> > > > > about other component libraries.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> How can i contribue to DeltaSpike? I could do some
smaller
> > tasks
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > >>> problems.
> > > > > > >>> I also implemented constraints like
> EqualsExpression("#{...}").
> > > > Maybe
> > > > > > >> this
> > > > > > >>> could be useful for other users, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This page should help -
> > > > > > http://deltaspike.staging.apache.org/deltaspike/community.html
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Best regards,
> > > > > > >>> Thomas
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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