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From Rudy De Busscher <rdebussc...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: @Startup like?
Date Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:34:07 GMT
There are indeed all kind of other scenarios of @startup where you need
JSF.  I have used it already to overwrite some standard JSF converters.

Rudy

On 16 October 2012 13:37, Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>wrote:

> there are several requirements which aren't related to a db...
> (in most cases such functionality gets triggered during the first request.
> that's currently the only workaround which works for all constellations
> i've seen so far.)
>
> regards,
> gerhard
>
>
>
> 2012/10/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
>
> > hmm,
> >
> > not in @Startup
> >
> > let think to a database provisionning using the DS datasources
> >
> > *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2012/10/16 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes it works fine if you only need EJB stuff, but in Extensions you
> > pretty
> > > often need to interact with other frameworks
> > >
> > > LieGrue,
> > > strub
> > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > >To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg <
> > struberg@yahoo.de
> > > >
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:01 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: @Startup like?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >That's not an issue IMO,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Personally i abuse of it to initialize stuff wich is needed later but
> > not
> > > linked to any other spec
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > >Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > > >Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > > >LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > > >Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >2012/10/16 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>@Startup is perfectly broken as well. Read 4.8.1
> > > >>
> > > >>" 4.8.1 Singleton Initialization ...the container must initialize the
> > > Singleton bean
> > > >>instance during the application startup sequence...."
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>It does NOT define whether other parts of the container must already
> be
> > > available. I've noticed that @Startup beans get initialized _before_
> the
> > > JSF container is fully booted.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>What is missing is a general startup order for EE containers.
> Including
> > > events.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>LieGrue,
> > > >>strub
> > > >>
> > > >>----- Original Message -----
> > > >>
> > > >>> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeanouii@gmail.com>
> > > >>> To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > > >>> Cc:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:20 AM
> > > >>> Subject: Re: @Startup like?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Basically, what has been defined for Singleton beans (@Startup
and
> > > >>> @DependsOn)?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Jean-Louis
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2012/10/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>  Hi guys,
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  after a talk with Charles i wonder if we couldn't add a kind
of
> > > >>>>  @Startup/@LoadOnStartup  feature to DS.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  The idea could be to for the init of some bean with the last
cdi
> > > event at
> > > >>>>  startup.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  It could be used to force some init in standalone (cdictrl)
or
> > > without
> > > >>>>  being dependent of the environment (JSE, JEE, Web...)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  wdyt?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > > >>>>  *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > > >>>>  *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > > >>>>  http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > > >>>>  *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > > >>>>  *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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