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From Gerhard Petracek <gerhard.petra...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: @Startup like?
Date Tue, 16 Oct 2012 11:37:47 GMT
there are several requirements which aren't related to a db...
(in most cases such functionality gets triggered during the first request.
that's currently the only workaround which works for all constellations
i've seen so far.)

regards,
gerhard



2012/10/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>

> hmm,
>
> not in @Startup
>
> let think to a database provisionning using the DS datasources
>
> *Romain Manni-Bucau*
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>
>
>
>
> 2012/10/16 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>
> >
> >
> > Yes it works fine if you only need EJB stuff, but in Extensions you
> pretty
> > often need to interact with other frameworks
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > >To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg <
> struberg@yahoo.de
> > >
> > >Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:01 PM
> > >Subject: Re: @Startup like?
> > >
> > >
> > >That's not an issue IMO,
> > >
> > >
> > >Personally i abuse of it to initialize stuff wich is needed later but
> not
> > linked to any other spec
> > >
> > >
> > >Romain Manni-Bucau
> > >Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > >Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > >LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > >Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >2012/10/16 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>@Startup is perfectly broken as well. Read 4.8.1
> > >>
> > >>" 4.8.1 Singleton Initialization ...the container must initialize the
> > Singleton bean
> > >>instance during the application startup sequence...."
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>It does NOT define whether other parts of the container must already be
> > available. I've noticed that @Startup beans get initialized _before_ the
> > JSF container is fully booted.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>What is missing is a general startup order for EE containers. Including
> > events.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>LieGrue,
> > >>strub
> > >>
> > >>----- Original Message -----
> > >>
> > >>> From: Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeanouii@gmail.com>
> > >>> To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Cc:
> > >>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:20 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: @Startup like?
> > >>>
> > >>> Basically, what has been defined for Singleton beans (@Startup and
> > >>> @DependsOn)?
> > >>>
> > >>> Jean-Louis
> > >>>
> > >>> 2012/10/16 Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>>  Hi guys,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  after a talk with Charles i wonder if we couldn't add a kind of
> > >>>>  @Startup/@LoadOnStartup  feature to DS.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  The idea could be to for the init of some bean with the last cdi
> > event at
> > >>>>  startup.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  It could be used to force some init in standalone (cdictrl) or
> > without
> > >>>>  being dependent of the environment (JSE, JEE, Web...)
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  wdyt?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>  *Romain Manni-Bucau*
> > >>>>  *Twitter: @rmannibucau <https://twitter.com/rmannibucau>*
> > >>>>  *Blog: **http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/*<
> > >>>>  http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/>
> > >>>>  *LinkedIn: **http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>  *Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau*
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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