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From Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
Subject Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
Date Thu, 09 Aug 2012 07:57:24 GMT
yes it seems that we cannot use this spear image :/

LieGrue,
strub



----- Original Message -----
> From: Arne Limburg <arne.limburg@openknowledge.de>
> To: "deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org" <deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org>;
Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The license is at least questionable:
> http://classroomclipart.com/CRCLcopyright.htm
> 
> I cannot see a sentence stating that we may use it for a logo of an open
> source framework.
> 
> And: We may not remove the watermark!
> 
> Cheers,
> Arne
> 
> Am 09.08.12 09:29 schrieb "Charles Moulliard" unter 
> <ch007m@gmail.com>:
> 
>> Hi Mark,
>> 
>> This is a free downloadable image (
>> http://classroomclipart.com/clipart-view/Clipart/Numbers/spear_jpg.htm)
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:18 AM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> 
> wrote:
>> 
>>>  Another question, Charles. What license does the spear you used have? 
> Is
>>>  this a freely available image?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  LieGrue,
>>>  strub
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  >________________________________
>>>  > From: Charles Moulliard <ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>  >Cc: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>  >Sent: Thursday, August 9, 2012 9:09 AM
>>>  >Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >Hi Romain,
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >I would prefer to keep it simple like now. Using deltaspike as the
>>> handle
>>>  should be doable but it will be difficult to use the Delta greek letter
>>> for
>>>  the spear as we have to contort it, extend it. ... and in consequence
>>> the
>>>  result will not be really beautifull and far away about the
>>> concept/message
>>>  that you would like to implement.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >Regards,
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >Charles
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:03 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <
>>>  rmannibucau@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  >the spear is fine,
>>>  >>
>>>  >>i'd like to see if we can get a spear with 
> "deltaspike" as handle and
>>> the
>>>  >>greek letter delta as spike
>>>  >>
>>>  >>- Romain
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>2012/8/9 Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
>>>  >>
>>>  >>> I like it.
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> It's still not perfect, but I've seen logos _way_ 
> worse ;)
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> LieGrue,
>>>  >>> strub
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>  >>> > From: Romain Manni-Bucau 
> <rmannibucau@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> > To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>  >>> > Cc:
>>>  >>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2012 11:37 PM
>>>  >>> > Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike Web site
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> > deltaspike is too linear IMO
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> > we really wants to keep so much text.
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> > - Romain
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> > 2012/8/8 Charles Moulliard <ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>> >>  Here is a new proposition for the logo based on 
> Mark's remark :
>>>  >>> >>
>>>  >>> >>  http://cl.ly/image/3T1B1t030g2L
>>>  >>> >>
>>>  >>> >>  On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Charles 
> Moulliard <
>>>  ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  wrote:
>>>  >>> >>
>>>  >>> >>  > Mark : Do you mean that you prefer that the 
> spear is placed
>>>  under the
>>>  >>> >>  > deltaspike name (but parallel) ?
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  > I'm thinking about placing the spear 
> through the p letter
>>> (like
>>>  >>> > the arrow
>>>  >>> >>  > through a heart) but don't think that 
> it will be easy to
>>> achieve
>>>  >>> > that
>>>  >>> >>  with
>>>  >>> >>  > Gimp
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 7:35 PM, Mark 
> Struberg
>>>  >>> > <struberg@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> nice one!
>>>  >>> >>  >> could you do the spear as 
> 'underline' having the
>>>  >>> > 'p' cross em?
>>>  >>> >>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> LieGrue,
>>>  >>> >>  >> strub
>>>  >>> >>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>  >>> >>  >> > From: Charles Moulliard 
> <ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> > To: 
> deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Cc:
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2012 7:19 
> PM
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Subject: Re: [Vote] New DeltaSpike 
> Web site
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Here is a suggestion with the 
> spear
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> > http://cl.ly/image/2H2n2i2k1H3j
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM, 
> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>  >>> >>  >> > 
> <rmannibucau@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  
> http://thepegasusrider.webs.com/Mace.jpg  and
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  
> http://www.symbols.net/guide/_images_greek1/Delta.png
>>>  >>> > for instance,
>>>  >>> >>  >> no
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  (well these picts are not the 
> best but i hope it will
>>>  >>> > help to
>>>  >>> >>  >> understand
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  what i'm thinking of)?
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  - Romain
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  2012/8/7 Charles Moulliard 
> <ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > I cannot follow you. An 
> example will help us.
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 
> 5:07 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>  >>> > <
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >wrote:
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > delta and spike
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > - Romain
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > 2012/8/7 Charles 
> Moulliard
>>>  >>> > <ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > What do you 
> mean by both part ?
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > On Tue, Aug 7, 
> 2012 at 5:03 PM, Romain
>>>  >>> > Manni-Bucau <
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > 
> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >wrote:
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > both part 
> can have a pict, i think
>>>  >>> > i'd prefer it
>>>  >>> >>  >> > with a small
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > deltaspike
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > somewhere 
> just as a reminder
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > - Romain
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > 2012/8/7 
> Charles Moulliard
>>>  >>> > <ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > We 
> can use DSpike as name.
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > On 
> Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 4:56 PM,
>>>  >>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>  >>> >>  >> > <
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > 
> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > 
>> wrote:
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
> Personally i'd prefer
>>>  >>> > something with as
>>>  >>> >>  >> > few letters as
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  possible.
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > Logo
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > with
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
> too much text needs to be
>>>  >>> > read :p
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
> - Romain
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
> 2012/8/7 Matt Benson
>>>  >>> >>  >> > <gudnabrsam@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  How about a syringe
>>>  >>> > with a feather in
>>>  >>> >>  >> > it?  ;P
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>> 
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  On Tue, Aug 7, 2012
>>>  >>> > at 9:39 AM, Charles
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Moulliard <
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > 
> ch007m@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  wrote:
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > I would like to
>>>  >>> > come with a new
>>>  >>> >>  >> > idea for the DeltaSpike
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  logo
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > Idea : Add a
>>>  >>> > spear/javellin to the
>>>  >>> >>  >> > DeltaSpike name. By
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > example,
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > we
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
> could
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > add it top of
>>>  >>> > the i letter
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > The spear
>>>  >>> > symbolizes the movement
>>>  >>> >>  >> > and in certain way the
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > movement
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > represented by
>>>  >>> > action to inject
>>>  >>> >>  >> > something in a Java Object.
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > What do you
>>>  >>> > think about this ?
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > On Sun, Jul 15,
>>>  >>> > 2012 at 11:09 PM,
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> > <rmannibucau@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> had a crazy
>>>  >>> > thought about the
>>>  >>> >>  >> > log: DS should be a kind of
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > 
> "superman"
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
> for
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> cdi and we
>>>  >>> > have the delta...and
>>>  >>> >>  >> > the "S"pike...
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> > 
> http://people.apache.org/~rmannibucau/graphic/ds-2.png
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> - Romain
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> 2012/7/6
>>>  >>> > Gerhard Petracek
>>>  >>> >>  >> > <gerhard.petracek@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > hi @
>>>  >>> > all,
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > i like
>>>  >>> > the basic idea of
>>>  >>> >>  >> > [delta symbol] + 
> "spike".
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > imo
>>>  >>> > logos with
>>>  >>> >>  >> >> nice< symbols are way 
> better than most
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > pure
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  text-logos.
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > + as
>>>  >>> > soon as we have a
>>>  >>> >>  >> > final name, we will get
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > professional
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  suggestions.
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> > regards,
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > gerhard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> > 2012/7/6 Mehdi Heidarzadeh
>>>  >>> >>  >> > <heidarzadeh2@gmail.com>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > >
>>>  >>> > How about an "up
>>>  >>> >>  >> > side down" triangle. (sth 
> unusual,
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > hackers
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > way
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
> ;) )
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > > --
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > >
>>>  >>> > Mehdi Heidarzadeh
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Ardalani
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > >
>>>  >>> > Independent JEE
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Consultant, Architect and 
> Developer.
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> > http://www.TheBigJavaBlog.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > --
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > Charles
>>>  >>> > Moulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > Apache Committer
>>>  >>> > / Sr. Pr.
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Consultant at FuseSource.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > Twitter :
>>>  >>> > @cmoulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>>  > Blog :
>>>  >>> >>  >> > http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > > 
>> 
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > --
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > 
> Charles Moulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > 
> Apache Committer / Sr. Pr.
>>>  >>> > Consultant at
>>>  >>> >>  >> > FuseSource.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > 
> Twitter : @cmoulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > > Blog 
> :
>>>  >>> > http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > --
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Charles 
> Moulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Apache 
> Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at
>>>  >>> > FuseSource.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Twitter : 
> @cmoulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > > Blog : 
> http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > --
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Charles Moulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Apache Committer / Sr. 
> Pr. Consultant at
>>>  >>> > FuseSource.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Twitter : @cmoulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  > Blog : 
> http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >>
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >> > --
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Charles Moulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. 
> Consultant at FuseSource.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Twitter : @cmoulliard
>>>  >>> >>  >> > Blog : 
> http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >>> >>  >> >
>>>  >>> >>  >>
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  > --
>>>  >>> >>  > Charles Moulliard
>>>  >>> >>  > Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at 
> FuseSource.com
>>>  >>> >>  > Twitter : @cmoulliard
>>>  >>> >>  > Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>  >
>>>  >>> >>
>>>  >>> >>
>>>  >>> >>  --
>>>  >>> >>  Charles Moulliard
>>>  >>> >>  Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at 
> FuseSource.com
>>>  >>> >>  Twitter : @cmoulliard
>>>  >>> >>  Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >>> >>
>>>  >>> >
>>>  >>>
>>>  >>
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >--
>>>  >
>>>  >Charles Moulliard
>>>  >Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
>>>  >Twitter : @cmoulliard
>>>  >Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Charles Moulliard
>> Apache Committer / Sr. Pr. Consultant at FuseSource.com
>> Twitter : @cmoulliard
>> Blog : http://cmoulliard.blogspot.com
> 

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