Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-deltaspike-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-deltaspike-dev-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 592009272 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 22:44:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 52618 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2012 22:44:48 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-deltaspike-dev-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52583 invoked by uid 500); 3 Jul 2012 22:44:48 -0000 Mailing-List: contact deltaspike-dev-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 52575 invoked by uid 99); 3 Jul 2012 22:44:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:44:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_REPLY,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of lightguard.jp@gmail.com designates 209.85.160.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.160.175] (HELO mail-gh0-f175.google.com) (209.85.160.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 22:44:43 +0000 Received: by ghbz2 with SMTP id z2so5574417ghb.6 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:44:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=HiVzHQto4Nqt84ZxwFMyqDoooUPRQRVWgYs+ojV13PM=; b=tEYKn85PWj2zVe0/svBjyqPYfjgby+/EcanR0UTNs3xGjIPVSAxTqqBB6BNWyDge34 vabmGwtYyY/PGhsSqAKbe81hcbEeAqBoPmpsyaBI8MZe6DPFfeHl8uJS0nP1B49xsQZo RP51OsEiBW+3qZgvWDzUR+fQbiU14EbGMqnRpvM22apW3OXXXLUugwv7nSN0MKHU4w9x 3TSdLZEZgokFCTU077FwfyzNPe6vy6/Xr3MYQCx2E9JeIOGsUBNcyfbzLV0k5Ikf48g8 rG1m6MxiuvbeM17fauj9m8ZYhOJPByMLWC2erWtVg+zhcXdrkker5MODdegoVEzdalPx BHNQ== Received: by 10.50.207.40 with SMTP id lt8mr11849095igc.16.1341355462384; Tue, 03 Jul 2012 15:44:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.161.227 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2012 15:44:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1341210997.57365.YahooMailNeo@web171502.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> From: Jason Porter Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 18:44:02 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Missing features for Seam 3 users adoption To: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=14dae9340991da5ab204c3f4a7f2 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --14dae9340991da5ab204c3f4a7f2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 A very big +1 from me. I know we're all busy with things and this isn't our first priority for most of us, but if all you can do is review documentation or one section of code (say i18n or transaction from this release) it will be much better than not doing anything. Also for any of the previous Seam 3 contributors, the earlier you start looking at what we're doing in DeltaSpike, the easier it will be for you to adapt your module or create new ideas. On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Gerhard Petracek wrote: > hi @ all, > > since our plan is to get deltaspike in a good shape by v0.9, it's imo > pretty obvious that we have to start with the jsf module soon (as well as > with some other modules) and nobody questioned it so far. > however, in view of planned features for release x nothing is a "must". we > are a community centric open-source project and nothing else. > > since we communicate that until v1 even apis can change, we will see some > early adaptors and people who start to experiment with it (which is great > and important). > however, imo most users will join after the api is stable. at least that's > also what i hear on a regular basis - users are very interested in > deltaspike, but they will (or have to) wait until it's stable. > > for now it's way more important to move on faster as a (dev-)community > (independent of the topic). > it's really very important to get more reviewers during the dev process. > besides code-reviews also the documentation, examples,... are very > important. > we just can do it fast(er), if more people join the effort actively. right > now we have about 4 (of more than 20) committers who join the effort on a > regular basis. > getting new contributors (and therefore potential committers) is important, > but as a >short term< goal i would be happy to see more activity from > existing committers. > > regards, > gerhard > > > > 2012/7/3 Mehdi Heidarzadeh > > > +1 for starting with JSF in 0.4 > > > > I think for 0.4, JSF is a must because most developers can start to use > > Deltaspike since jsf is included in Deltaspike. > > > > -- > > Mehdi Heidarzadeh Ardalani > > Independent JEE Consultant, Architect and Developer. > > http://www.TheBigJavaBlog.com > > > -- Jason Porter http://lightguard-jp.blogspot.com http://twitter.com/lightguardjp Software Engineer Open Source Advocate Author of Seam Catch - Next Generation Java Exception Handling PGP key id: 926CCFF5 PGP key available at: keyserver.net, pgp.mit.edu --14dae9340991da5ab204c3f4a7f2--