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From "Matthias Klein" <matth...@cmklein.de>
Subject RE: (frustrated torque first timer) Please update the Tutorial
Date Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:59:49 GMT
I gave it another try and have a few minor comments.
Unfortunately, as of today (august 24) I can't find the "new" tutorial or
the associated wiki pages on the torque homepage.
Are they temporarily offline?

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Fischer [mailto:tfischer@apache.org] 
Sent: Samstag, 20. August 2005 16:40
To: Apache Torque Users List
Cc: yong LIANG
Subject: Re: (frustrated torque first timer) Please update the Tutorial


the tutorial has been updated, it should be correct for Torque 3.2-RC1. I
believe the issues you have raised have been addressed now. If you got the
time, I'd appreciate it if you could give it another try.

Of course, if anyone else feels like going at it, please do. If something is
unclear or incorrect, please send a short email to the users list. 
If you have suggestions what could be explained better, cou can also send a
mail to the users list or use the brand new user comment links at the bottom
of the pages


On Wed, 6 Jul 2005, yong LIANG wrote:

> As a first time user of torque I am a little bit frustrated with the 
> tutorial you provided as it does not answer all questions (in my 
> opinion). Find those questions below. Id really appreciate it if you
could update the tutorial.
> In my opinion, there needs to be a tutorial (step by step, every 
> single thing explained, for newbies) and a user guide (explaining all
features and stuff).
> So the tutorial cant assume that the user knows much.
> Here are those questions:
> 1. What is this Torque Runtime Properties thing you talk about? I have 
> no idea what that means or if I am supposed to do anything in this step.
> 2. If I unpack torque-3.1.1.zip, I do NOT see the directory structure 
> that you mentioned. Why not?
> 3. Exactly which files do I need? (At first you only talk about the 
> two Torque jars, but later you talk about dependencies)
> 4. Where do I get those files?
> 5. Where exactly (directory) do I put each of those files?
> 6. How do I handle those files? (E.g. which one has to be in my 
> classpath? Do I only need to add the directory to the classpath or 
> each and every single jar? Istnt there a better way than the 
> classpath?)
> 7. Where do I put the database driver? (Someone in this mailing list 
> says it has to be in %MAVEN_HOME%/lib/endorsed. If that is correct, 
> why does the tutorial not mention that? If there is a better location 
> for that file, why does the tutorial not talk about that?
> 8. Why does it not work to create/drop a database or tables in 
> PostgreSQL even if everything is set up correctly? Why do some on this 
> list suggest to use the SQL scripts manually instead of letting maven 
> do that? Isnt that a bug/problem in torque or maven?
> 9. Why does the tutorial not mention this issue?
> 10. If maven torque works and I create the database manually and I 
> create the Bookstore.java application  what could be the reason that 
> I get the message No java files to be compiled and then BUILD 
> SUCCESSFUL? This process does not produce ANY class files anywhere. What
did I do wrong?
> Thanks
> Sorry for the frustrated voice in my mail. I didnt mean to insult anyone.
> Please consider updating your tutorial quickly. That shouldnt take 
> much time, I think, as I believe all of those questions can be 
> answered by an experienced torque expert without thinking.
> Thanks
> Yong
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