Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-db-torque-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-db-torque-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24D9DDB71 for ; Wed, 3 Oct 2012 01:21:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 10935 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2012 01:21:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-torque-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 10895 invoked by uid 500); 3 Oct 2012 01:21:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact torque-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Apache Torque Developers List" Reply-To: "Apache Torque Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list torque-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 10728 invoked by uid 99); 3 Oct 2012 01:21:49 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:21:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [217.24.207.26] (HELO mail.seitenbau.net) (217.24.207.26) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 01:21:43 +0000 Received: from www.seitenbau.net ([192.168.15.18]:31536) by mail.seitenbau.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1TJDeI-0003Pj-0k for torque-dev@db.apache.org; Wed, 03 Oct 2012 03:21:18 +0200 X-CTCH-RefID: str=0001.0A0B0206.506B930E.003D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 Subject: Planning X-KeepSent: A85208E4:62E38F51-C1257A85:0024434C; type=4; name=$KeepSent To: torque-dev@db.apache.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 8.5.3 September 15, 2011 Message-ID: From: Thomas Fox Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 03:21:17 +0200 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on www/seitenbau(Release 8.5HF467 | May 15, 2009) at 10/03/2012 03:21:17 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org As we're now past the 4.0-beta1 release, it's worth while to put a few thoughts into what comes next. There have been a few discussion issues open from the 4.0-beta1 release, as well as a general requirement from apache infrastructure. 1) It is still undecided whether we want to include documentation with the binary releases. Currently they only contain the jar and their dependencies. 2) It is also undecided whether we want to provide source packages for the single modules. 3) We need to switch the site publishing mechanism to svnpubsub until the end of year [1]. So some change in the site publishing mechanism is needed. We need to consider the following: - We need a location for the site in svn (currently the "default location" db/torque/site is occupied by the torque 3 site project, see also (5)) - We probably want to retain the documentation for older releases - It should be no hassle to create a new site version directory (as we now have for the old docs of 3.1, 3.2, and the new 4.0 but not the current 3.3 docs) 4) How much time do we allow for testing before the first attempt to release 4.0 ? 5) Do we want to reorganize svn by putting the torque 3 resources into aseparate place ? 6) I'd like to improve the online docs further by dropping the strict separation between modules in the docs. My personal opinions are: 1) We should create a README file for the binary distributions, pointing to the online documentation. As the modules are too much connected, creating documentation for a single module is very much hassle (and cannot be taken from the online docs). Including docs for all the modules will probably confuse an innocent user. 2) I do not see the necessity to have a source distribution for single modules. We already have a source distribution for all modules. Having single source distributions has the problem that the module builds depend on each other. 3) We can use db/torque/site-svnpubsub as svn location. There, a directory should exist for every documentation version we want to retain (even the newest version), e.g db/torque/site-svnpubsub/torque-4.0. There should be a single index.html file in the db/torque/site-svnpubsub location, which redirects to the current version. 4) I'd suggest two months. So try starting to release 4.0 end of November. 5) Reorganizing would break existing svn locations. But as long as we edit the site accordinglis, this should not be a problem. I suggest to create a torque3 directory along the torque4 directory (db/torque/torque3) and move the torque 3 stuff in there. 6) In my opinion, the user sees Torque as a single toolkit. Why should he bother to first think into which module he must look into for documentation? While at this, I'd also like to move the docs to a more prominent place than Module Documentation/Modules/${module}/Reference in the current site menu structure Any opinions / suggestions / vetos ? Thomas [1] http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site.html#svnpubsub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: torque-dev-unsubscribe@db.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: torque-dev-help@db.apache.org