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From "Greg Monroe" <Greg.Mon...@DukeCE.com>
Subject RE: Table and Column name mapping issues
Date Mon, 30 Jan 2006 22:21:18 GMT
The generator classes are very limited.  AFAIK, you can
only create an XML dump of all the data. You can't do 
application specific logic like creating an XML file that 
contains something like a forum definition record (from 
one table) plus all associated posts (from another table)
and other information.  This requires application specific
knowledge that the generator classes do not support.
This could be done via application specific code, but it 
is also possible for Torque to have the basic building
blocks included to make such application specific coding
easy. See: http://issues.apache.org/scarab/issues/id/TRQS344 <http://issues.apache.org/scarab/issues/id/TRQS344>

for my take on these export building blocks.
Also, when you go to import data into a different database,
there will be application issues related to forgeign keys that
need to be resolved.  For example, importing a forum record
that has a category forgeign key column from the old DB.  
This will need to be modified by the application specific code 
to point to the correct category key in the new database.
Torque could support this by having Runtime code that will 
take XML and convert it into record objects that 
application code can then modify them as needed.

FWIW, I looked briefly at the ddlutils but they have yet
to produce a release version and the project does not seem
to be very active. Plus they currently don't have the 
functionality I'm trying to add to Torque.  Maybe in the
future but...

Since I had some work time that I could allocate to this
and nobody seemed to have strong opinions (or I just
confused the heck out of everyone 8) ), I opted for the
path of least effect on existing code.  Rather than 
change DTD output, which might cause existing code to 
break, the patch I submitted in scarab only adds the 
JavaName to the Table and Column map files that are 


From: Thomas Fischer [mailto:tfischer@apache.org]
Sent: Sat 1/28/2006 11:13 AM
To: Apache Torque Developers List
Subject: Re: Table and Column name mapping issues

Can you shed some light on why you can not use the generator classes for
this ? I have never tried to create a wrapper class around an ant task,
but I would not think this is too difficult.
I would object to have code for creating xml from database rows in two
places in Torque. We do not even manage to get it right in the generator
(Date stuff, Blob content etc. all causes problems). You for yourself are
free to do what you want, obviously.

You might also want to look at the ddlutils (db.apache.org/ddlutils)
project. They also have code for generating XML out of database data.

Apart from that, I do not see a compelling reason why Java names should be
used in the xml rather than sql column names. A generator option to change
this would be ok with me.

Also, storing information about the java names in the Database map would
also be ok with me, if you cared to implement it. Maybe it can be used for
other stuff (some people might want to use reflection (shudder...))


On Mon, 23 Jan 2006, Greg Monroe wrote:

> I'm trying to create some generic RUNTIME code which would
> allow records to be imported/exported using the DTD format
> that generator task creates.  The thought is that in solving a
> need we have here (moving stuff from staging to production
> DBs), I might be able to have some generic runtime XML
> Export/Import code to add to Torque.  E.g., export based
> on a criteria with all related foreign key table records too.
> However,  I've found some interesting name mapping problems
> in trying to do this. I'll open a issue and include a patch, but
> before starting I thought I'd poll folks for what the "right" way
> to fix this is.
> The basic problem is that the DTD uses the JavaName conventions
> for table and columns names but the Map classes use the SQL
> names. So how do you dynamically create an export record since
> the JavaName information from the Schema XML does not seem
> to be carried over into the runtime environment?
> There seem to be two choices to deal with this.  The first is to
> modify the DTD Generator task to allow for SQL names. Maybe
> just simply adding a option flag here.  This seems simple but
> you end up with two DTD which describe the same set of data
> and the possiblity of tag and/or attribute names that don't meet
> the XML specs.
> The second is to change the Mapping classes to store both the
> JavaName info and the SQL info.  This is more complex because
> it involves the templates and the base classes.  On the other
> hand, it would end up making the Map classes a more flexible.
> So, which approach (or is there one I missed) do folks think
> would work best?
> TIA.
> Greg
> Greg Monroe    <Monroe@DukeCE.com>    (919)680-5050
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