From torque-dev-return-3874-apmail-db-torque-dev-archive=db.apache.org@db.apache.org Mon Jan 26 19:53:26 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-torque-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 50258 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2004 19:53:26 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Jan 2004 19:53:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 53076 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2004 19:53:19 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-torque-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 53063 invoked by uid 500); 26 Jan 2004 19:53:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact torque-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "Apache Torque Developers List" Reply-To: "Apache Torque Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list torque-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 53049 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2004 19:53:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mwinf0502.wanadoo.fr) (193.252.22.26) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Jan 2004 19:53:18 -0000 Received: from Mix-Avignon-201-3-177.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr (Mix-Avignon-201-3-177.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.248.53.177]) by mwinf0502.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 3ED9FE8004CF for ; Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:53:21 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [VOTE] [PROPOSAL] Adding a torque-gui repository inside of the torque project From: Emmanuel Florent To: Apache Torque Developers List In-Reply-To: <1075136783.2182.116.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1071273913.28959.119.camel@localhost> <3FDAD057.2010500@marmot.at> <1075136783.2182.116.camel@localhost.localdomain> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-5tTh1kGyTC1xuXL6wvkd" Organization: devaki.org Message-Id: <1075146799.3585.42.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:53:20 +0100 X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N --=-5tTh1kGyTC1xuXL6wvkd Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > If not, we should discuss this more. What about a standalone project for the torque-gen ? I think that that proposal is rather a small component than a standalone project. Think about Axion, Think about an full featured IDE @apache. That probably would be revolutionary, but that's not my proposal. That's why I would like to refer to http://db.apache.org/newproject.html rather than=20 http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html At db.apache strong analisys should make appear that criteria 1,2,5 and especially 4 make the proposal a good candidate for sub-project. On my non-objective point of view warning 1 to 5 are OK. But the solution for this proposal should for me have be what Martin proposed : > maybe we should reorganize our repository structure > >=20 > > db-torque > > generator > > gui > > maven-pl So as far as I remember ant have a gui, maven have a gui. I only see Criteria 3 (Core developers) but it make deseaper what we are not even talking of a sub-project. The criteria implode if you consider having a bigger userbase of the torque-gen codebase. So pass it is very neccessary to discuss this more. I think about two FAQ : - this project should have be an eclipse plugin no because it's good practice that not to code while designing,=20 The principal benefit of using eclipse would have be for having a nice docked tree. - kind of project should have use GEF, or use the dia/xslt approach Most of library relies on UML. I suggest to follow Amblin : http://www.agiledata.org/essays/umlDataModelingProfile.html to have a torque dedicated UI. Lot thing have to be discuted again.=20 I'm just interessed by this. EF >=20 > john mcnally >=20 > On Sat, 2003-12-13 at 00:39, Martin Poeschl wrote: > > Emmanuel Florent wrote: > >=20 > > >About two years ago I started the devaki-nextobjects projects > > >. > > > > > >Among other things this project now have to improve jar entry point > > >(startup), packaging and torque integration. > > > =20 > > > > > i really like nextobjects and i think it is a great addition for torque= . > > i added a link to our references page but people still don't find it=20 > > (look at the mailing archives). > >=20 > > >The proposal is to integrate this sources as torque-gui inside of the > > >torque project. > > > =20 > > > > > i'm sure both projects will benefit if we add nextobjects as torque-gui > > more people will find nextobjects ;-) .. and this will help to attract=20 > > more developers > > and torque will offer a nice integrated gui for all the 'i will never=20 > > write a xml file' people :-) > >=20 > > >If this proposal to the torque development team is accepted I'll post > > >the material nedded for the license changes, and do the change needed = to > > >comply with coding convention, licensing issues, with the help and > > >advices of Martin Poeschl during the nexts weeks. > > > =20 > > > > > http://sourceforge.net/project/memberlist.php?group_id=3D70507 > >=20 > > >The initial source of the proposal are the material currently availabl= e > > >from . > > > > > >The source identified destination is a db-torque / src / torque-gui > > >repository. > > > =20 > > > > > as there is another discussion about sub-sub projects db-torque / src /= =20 > > torque-gui is a good place! > > maybe we should reorganize our repository structure > >=20 > > db-torque > > generator > > gui > > maven-plugin > > runtime > >=20 > > but this is another topic ... > >=20 > > +1 to add nextobjects as torque-gui > >=20 > > martin > >=20 > > >Emmanuel Florent > > > =20 > > > > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: torque-dev-unsubscribe@db.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: torque-dev-help@db.apache.org >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: torque-dev-unsubscribe@db.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: torque-dev-help@db.apache.org >=20 >=20 >=20 --=-5tTh1kGyTC1xuXL6wvkd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBAFXAvWSIHAJ36JukRAitXAKCzIAoHs9xpV+txDtPSSoOQlzn5hgCgwoq6 JDH1Bf2Yyvq/6VZGW75f3K0= =/wjp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-5tTh1kGyTC1xuXL6wvkd--