Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-ojb-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 55815 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2004 23:21:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 1 Jul 2004 23:21:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 78064 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jul 2004 23:21:53 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-ojb-dev-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 77961 invoked by uid 500); 1 Jul 2004 23:21:51 -0000 Mailing-List: contact ojb-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Help: List-Post: List-Id: "OJB Developers List" Reply-To: "OJB Developers List" Delivered-To: mailing list ojb-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 77912 invoked by uid 99); 1 Jul 2004 23:21:50 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received: from [66.199.152.34] (HELO kgb07.kgbinternet.com) (66.199.152.34) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.27.1) with ESMTP; Thu, 01 Jul 2004 16:21:50 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.100] (pool-70-17-70-86.res.east.verizon.net [70.17.70.86]) (authenticated bits=0) by kgb07.kgbinternet.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i61NL2qI007735 for ; Thu, 1 Jul 2004 17:21:03 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v618) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <51546C2C-CBB5-11D8-8C9B-000D93ADF212@codepuccino.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Robert S. Sfeir" Subject: Re: Forward! Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2004 19:21:02 -0400 To: "OJB Developers List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.618) X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Jul 1, 2004, at 6:55 PM, Brian McCallister wrote: > Okay, AIM conversation with Robert convinced me we need to start > pushing post 1.0 stuff right now =) > > Robert, that is your cue ;-) haha ok Brian. What I suggested to Brian, to fend off Hibernate, and to let people know that activity is high and on for this project we need to schedule releases with defined cycles and commit ourselves to them. I am not suggesting anything hard, or anything aggressive, but short and sweet. What I told Brian is that we need to put out 1.0.1 in the next 2 weeks. if we don't know what should go in it, then let's figure it out. It doesn't have to be much, but it will be enough to get people's attention that we're putting out releases. I believe that every 4 weeks there needs to be a release. That release is a .0.x release which would include fixes from previous dot releases, and then contain small to medium improvements. There should be a .x release every 3 months. Again I am not suggesting we throw the kitchen sink of changes at the user, I am suggesting 1-2 major feature change every 3 months along with the small incremental changes and fixes. A 3 month short cycle of features and fixes we can handle, provides a constant stream of improvements to the user which doesn't overwhelm them, allows them to grow their application with the changes, and allows the user to expect what will be coming next. The JDO stuff Brian was referring to is not a 3 months cycle. It might be rolled incrementally as part as some builds, while the skeleton and some of the back end code might be added in cycles, the api might not be available for 2-3 cycles or as part of a major release. First thing we need is a list of feature requests, enhancements, and bugs. I know there is a bug tracker somewhere which I have not accessed yet, and we can determine from that what we can do. I can also install XPlanner on my server and we can run the control of the cycles from there, and adjust our load based on the output over time. R --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: ojb-dev-unsubscribe@db.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: ojb-dev-help@db.apache.org