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From "Gavin McDonald" <ga...@16degrees.com.au>
Subject RE: [Jdo Wiki] Update of "FrontPage" by thatisacat
Date Sun, 24 Apr 2011 07:04:49 GMT


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig L Russell [mailto:craig.russell@oracle.com]
> Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2011 2:12 PM
> To: Gavin McDonald
> Cc: infrastructure@apache.org; jdo-dev@db.apache.org project
> Subject: Re: [Jdo Wiki] Update of "FrontPage" by thatisacat
> 
> Hi Gav...
> 
> I've cleaned the wiki already, 

ok, that's the sort of thing a project admin  can do thanks.

> but I don't want the spammer to do this again,
> to this or another project.

Not so easy, first off, the moin moin wiki farm we uses currently has a set
of users
per project wiki, not global, so banning a user from your wiki does not ban
them
from any other - this also means the wiki user/spammer has to sign up for
each
wiki. Also, banning a 'user' just bans the username, there is nothing to
stop them
creating another username and continuing on with their spam enjoyment.

> 
> This happens every six months or so, so it's not a big issue for "open"
wikis.

maybe to your wiki, be we have far more projects using the moin wiki than
just yours, 
and they all get targeted at one stage or another.

> 
> I don't know how to ban a wiki user, so that's why I'm asking for infra
help.
> 
> How do I as a JDO admin ban a user?

Banning a wiki user is at infra level, so that part yes we need to do,
personally I do
not think it will make a difference, as they will just become someone else.

If all wikis remain open, this will continue on and their initial goal of
getting links indexed
by goo-gle et al will have succeeded. Banning usernames is a fruitless
exercise.

Projects can have and are welcome to have restricted wikis limited to a set
of users and controlled
by project admins - I'll happily set up any moin wiki this way if any ask.

That said, 'thatisacat' account now disabled.

Gav...

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Craig
> 
> On Apr 23, 2011, at 7:27 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Craig L Russell [mailto:craig.russell@oracle.com]
> >> Sent: Sunday, 24 April 2011 12:14 PM
> >> To: infrastructure@apache.org
> >> Subject: Fwd: [Jdo Wiki] Update of "FrontPage" by thatisacat
> >>
> >> Can you please ban this user before anything more gets spammed?
> >
> > Where are the JDO wiki admins to do this.?
> >
> > <rant not directed at OP>
> > I have consistently said having open wikis at ASF is a bad idea, yet
> > nobody agrees with me, yet everyone wants me  to clean their wikis up
> > after them. Fine it keeps me busy but I can find better things to do
> > than mop up projects wikis.
> > </rant>
> >
> > I need to go shop before it closes, will look when I get back.
> >
> > Gav...
> >
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >>> From: Apache Wiki <wikidiffs@apache.org>
> >>> Date: April 23, 2011 7:09:23 PM PDT
> >>> To: Apache Wiki <wikidiffs@apache.org>
> >>> Subject: [Jdo Wiki] Update of "FrontPage" by thatisacat
> >>> Reply-To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> Dear Wiki user,
> >>>
> >>> You have subscribed to a wiki page or wiki category on "Jdo Wiki"
> >>> for change notification.
> >>>
> >>> The "FrontPage" page has been changed by thatisacat.
> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/FrontPage?action=diff&rev1=58&rev2=59
> >>>
> >>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>  * [[http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/BrowseProject.jspa?
> >>> id=10630|ASF JIRA]] for issue tracking;
> >>>  * [[http://subversion.tigris.org/|subversion]] for source control;
> >>>  * [[http://maven.apache.org/|maven]] for build;
> >>> + * [[http://www.juziku.com/|juziku]]
> >>>  * test first philosophy.
> >>>
> >>> = Participation =
> >>
> >> Craig L Russell
> >> Architect, Oracle
> >> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> >> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O,
> >> Gasp!
> >
> >
> 
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!



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