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From Matthew Adams <matt...@matthewadams.me>
Subject Re: Fetch configuration
Date Wed, 14 Jul 2010 14:53:51 GMT
Seems like a good idea.  Could foreign keys be considered the same as basic
fields for the purposes of the default fetch group?  That is, fetched by
default unless the user says don't fetch?

I assume that if an object is loaded using a fetch group that doesn't
include foreign keys and the foreign key field is dereferenced, the impl
would go back to the datastore and load the referenced object's foreign key
via the referencing object's key (simple lazy loading).  What's the
behavior of a JDO impl that supports change of identity if I load an object
that uses application identity with a fetch group that doesn't include
foreign keys of direct relationships, I then change the identity value of
the referencing object, and then I dereference a direct relationship that
was not loaded?  The impl would not have a way to get back to the datastore
to get the referenced object because the referencing object's key has been
changed.  It seems to me that a dumb implementation should throw
JDOUserException; a smart impl could cache the original value of the
referencing object's key if changed during the transaction and use the
cached id value to go get the referenced foreign key & object.  I could see
this as being a JDO option:


On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:37 AM, Andy Jefferson <andy@datanucleus.org>wrote:

> Post from 25 August 2008 by Craig.
> >
> http://openjpa.apache.org/docs/latest/manual/manual.html#ref_guide_fetch_im
> > pl says that "Even when a direct relation is not eagerly fetched,
> > OpenJPA selects the foreign key columns and caches the values. This way
> > when you do traverse the relation, OpenJPA can often find the related
> > object in its cache, or at least avoid joins when loading the related
> > object from the database." - that's very kind, but may be we have an
> > Entity with lots of foreign key columns and I KNOW I only want a list
> > showing a few attributes, and I KNOW that the direct relations won't be
> > traversed (say because the Entites are detached, may be). Is there any
> > way to configure OpenJPA to NOT eagerly fetch direct relations, unless
> > they are explicitly part of the Fetch Group? Actually what I'd want is
> > to be able to by default not include foreign key columns, but have a way
> > to explicitly include them - which is not the same as having the field
> > as part of the FetchGroup (that will lead to a JOIN, I may just want to
> > control whether or not to selects the foreign key column).
> >
> > Currently we don't have the notion in JDO of fetching key values of
> > relationships, just fetching the targets of these keys.
> > Would it be useful to consider adding to the JDO specification the
> > ability to specify fetching the keys for relationships and not the
> > relationships themselves? This would probably include adding some
> > metadata to fetch-group and to FetchGroup.
> Just seen a need for this also, bit late I know ;-)
> Perhaps add something in JDO3.1 ?
> --
> Andy
> DataNucleus (http://www.datanucleus.org)

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