Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-jdo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 42376 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2008 00:19:06 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 30 Aug 2008 00:19:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13495 invoked by uid 500); 30 Aug 2008 00:19:04 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jdo-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jdo-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 13484 invoked by uid 99); 30 Aug 2008 00:19:04 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:19:04 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.133] (HELO sca-es-mail-2.sun.com) (192.18.43.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:18:04 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m7U0IYoj024237 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K6E00N010SH0W00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (c-76-126-212-146.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.126.212.146]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K6E00J540UY3O00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 17:18:32 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Aug 29, 9 am PDT In-reply-to: <48B72CED.9090803@sun.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Cc: jdo-experts-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <47DC8BED-6D7C-494C-8AE2-F1964846CF5D@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.926) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--917339505 Sun-Java-System-SMTP-Warning: Lines longer than SMTP allows found and truncated. References: <4463CFBC.2050403@sun.com> <4705534C.2040806@sun.com> <470EABD8.2010008@sun.com> <47180BB8.6030108@sun.com> <472129C7.9050505@sun.com> <472A5490.9080601@sun.com> <47338314.8010204@sun.com> <474F3C64.6010503@sun.com> <47589111.30406@sun.com> <4761BD48.5090601@sun.com> <476B1024.2070903@sun.com> <477D608B.1010209@sun.com> <4786DB27.3000904@sun.com> <478FEE06.2020708@sun.com> <47990F55.7000600@sun.com> <47A2154B.5000606@sun.com> <47AB9B96.3050809@sun.com> <47B50EED.1030807@sun.com> <47BDBF63.1020800@sun.com> <47C75FEC.6050902@sun.com> <47D0BC1A.6010602@sun.com> <47D9A838.3010008@sun.com> <47E31BD0.60608@sun.com> <47EC3991.1080505@sun.com> <47F538C2.5060907@sun.com> <482CC2D9.7070301@sun.com> <48362C59.9010205@sun.com> <483F5742.9020303@sun.com> <48486D5C.3090405@sun.com> <485AFF38.9010307@sun.com> <48640BF0.4080800@sun.com> <4876A13C.4030004@sun.com> <48926468.6030205@sun.com> <489B8BCF.2060003@sun.com> <48A4D88C.9070709@sun.com> <48ADF604.8090800@sun.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-22--917339505 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Attendees: Michael Bouschen, Michelle Caisse, Craig Russell Agenda: 1. JDO 2.2 release timing: There are just 10 issues outstanding. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-557 needs some analysis but expect this will be done https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-580 will probably need a new test class https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-573 It appears that the Datanucleus bug won't be fixed in time for a 2008 release, so we will need to reorganize the test case that exposes the issue and put the failing test into the exclude list.[ There are several tests in the test case that work fine.] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-591 Any volunteers to pick this one? https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-582 There's a need to update JDOHelper independent of the test case https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-463 Looks like this is ready to be closed with just a spec update https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-556 should be split into two parts: this one that will probably be deferred and another that simply adds the constructor requirement to PersistenceManagerFactory implementations https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-558 The test case is ready but there's a change needed in Datanucleus to support serialization https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-590 I'd like some more discussion on this before we decide whether to do anything. Seems like there are two different requirements and it's unclear whether just doing the API without mandating behavior is useful or more opportunities for divergence. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JDO-500 This might fall out of 557, but if not, we can probably defer it. 2. Other issues JDO 2.1.1 release: Michael has volunteered to update JIRA with the bugs that were resolved in JDO 2.1.1. Yay. Action Items from weeks past: [Feb 1 2008] AI Matthew see what would be needed to update the PMF contract to support ServiceLoader. [Nov 30 2007] AI Christiaan propose more details on Update/copy by query for post-JDO 2.1. [May 25 2007] AI everyone download the Grails demo from grails.org and check it out. Also look at Grails/Groovy ExpandoMetaClass that has the magic to avoid reflection and enhancement. [May 25 2007] AI Matthew Adams prepare a proposal with just the basics of schema synchronization with jdo and orm metadata. [Aug 11 2006] AI Craig propose some semantics for behavior if user tries to add to a list where the ordering element is incorrect. [Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members: Articles on TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts. AI: Craig write a ServerSide article. -- Michelle Craig L Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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