From jdo-dev-return-7225-apmail-db-jdo-dev-archive=www.apache.org@db.apache.org Thu Mar 20 17:42:44 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-jdo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 24340 invoked from network); 20 Mar 2008 17:42:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 Mar 2008 17:42:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 80350 invoked by uid 500); 20 Mar 2008 17:42:42 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jdo-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jdo-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 80339 invoked by uid 99); 20 Mar 2008 17:42:42 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:42:42 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_HELO_PASS,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of joerg.von.frantzius@artnology.com designates 80.67.29.23 as permitted sender) Received: from [80.67.29.23] (HELO smtprelay09.ispgateway.de) (80.67.29.23) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:42:01 +0000 Received: from [195.143.217.178] (helo=[192.168.100.11]) by smtprelay09.ispgateway.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JcOmJ-0002n8-4h for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:42:11 +0100 Message-ID: <47E2A1F2.1040102@artnology.com> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:42:10 +0100 From: Joerg von Frantzius User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080226) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache JDO 2.1 References: <47E02F95.6080508@sun.com> <47E252E0.9000102@artnology.com> <47E29799.7050809@matthewadams.org> <010101c88aae$595626e0$0c0274a0$@org> In-Reply-To: <010101c88aae$595626e0$0c0274a0$@org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------080008010100010403080700" X-Df-Sender: 383542 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --------------080008010100010403080700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Honestly I'd think it wasn't even considered, at least because probably nobody came up with the idea (or do you know whether JPOX had been proposed as the JPA RI?) However, if JPOX had been chosen as the JPA RI, now that would look a little stupid. Like, if that JDO implementation does anyway what JPA requires, then why does JPA exist at all? No? Erik Bengtson schrieb: > If the decision factor was based on not being a Sun competitor, then the > first choice would be JPOX. > > ...lobbing was key. > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : Matthew Adams [mailto:matthew@matthewadams.org] > Envoyé : jeudi 20 mars 2008 17:58 > À : jdo-dev@db.apache.org > Objet : Re: [VOTE] Release Apache JDO 2.1 > > The JPA 1.0 RI was TopLink Essentials from Oracle. Sun has no JPA > implementation, really. I suppose you could say that it's OpenJPA, but > that's really Apache's, from BEA, which is, oh yeah, now Oracle. Harumph. > > Joerg von Frantzius wrote: > >> It was Red Hat who bought JBoss, and so Hibernate. Maybe for some reason >> Sun wants the RI rather to come from Oracle than from Red Hat? >> Uhm, or where did the JPA RI come from so far? >> >> David Jordan schrieb: >> >>> +1 on the release... >>> >>> I was not happy to see the following bad news... >>> >>> > http://www.informationweek.com/software/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=20690454 > 9 > >>> Sun does not seem to make any sense these days. They have sponsored >>> the best API, JDO, for years. >>> Then they let the EJB folks create JPA, which they tried to get to >>> subsume JDO. >>> Now they go with TopLink, an Oracle product, right after they have >>> bought JBoss? >>> It just makes no sense. >>> >>> >>> On Mar 18, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Michelle Caisse wrote: >>> >>> >>>> This vote is to release the Apache JDO 2.1 specification, TCK, and >>>> API (both legacy and current versions) with the projects that they >>>> depend on: enhancer, model, and util. >>>> >>>> [+1] Release JDO 2.1 specification, api, tck, enhancer, model, and util >>>> [0] Don't care >>>> [-1] Don't releaseJDO 2.1 specification, api, tck, enhancer, model, >>>> and util because: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The specification is available at >>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo/specifications.html. The TCK can be tested >>>> from the staging area, >>>> http://people.apache.org/~mcaisse/jdo2.1-rc2/dist. Please follow the >>>> directions at http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/ReleaseTesting2dot1 for >>>> downloading and testing. It would be useful if you would record the >>>> results of your testing there. >>>> >>>> Please test and vote. Voting will close at noon PDT Monday, March 24. >>>> >>>> -- Michelle >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > -- ____________________________________________________________________ artnology GmbH - Milastraße 4 - 10437 Berlin - Germany Geschäftsführer: Ekkehard Blome (CEO), Felix Kuschnick (CCO) Registergericht: Amtsgericht Berlin Charlottenburg HRB 76376 UST-Id. DE 217652550 --------------080008010100010403080700--