Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-jdo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 71609 invoked from network); 5 Oct 2007 17:30:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 5 Oct 2007 17:30:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 5828 invoked by uid 500); 5 Oct 2007 17:30:14 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jdo-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jdo-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 5817 invoked by uid 99); 5 Oct 2007 17:30:14 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:30:14 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-1.0 required=10.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.132] (HELO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.43.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 17:30:14 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l95HThg8026680 for ; Fri, 5 Oct 2007 10:29:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JPG00J018EEOH00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.253.253] ([192.18.37.228]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JPG00G318LI7600@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:29:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2007 10:29:24 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Oct 5 , 9 am PDT In-reply-to: <4705534C.2040806@sun.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Cc: jdo-experts-ext@Sun.COM Message-id: <9052369B-3212-40C6-9214-F9FD1EFAC0FD@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-177-697283823; micalg=sha1 References: <4463CFBC.2050403@sun.com> <459D9424.4090802@sun.com> <45A7119B.30601@sun.com> <45B01041.10106@sun.com> <45B95F3A.8090006@sun.com> <45CBC6A8.8030101@sun.com> <45D4E5E7.2050505@sun.com> <45DE3995.7070404@sun.com> <45E70D47.2040700@sun.com> <45F097C5.6020403@sun.com> <45F9D2EE.4070802@sun.com> <4603598C.8080205@sun.com> <460C4010.50209@sun.com> <46159A52.30506@sun.coom> <461EC15F.4070600@sun.ccom> <4627E706.6010105@sun.com> <463145A4.5080003@sun.com> <463A7B49.7000905@sun.com> <464CD0EB.5010101@sun.com> <46565157.4070804@sun.com> <465F4B00.9060906@sun.com> <4668D1DE.1080105@sun.com> <4671BA1B.7080600@sun.com> <467AFECA.6050104@sun.com> <468452A4.7080404@sun.com> <4696A846.1000707@sun.com> <469FFFEE.9030303@sun.com> <46AA0FE7.9060102@sun.com> <412A2419-D8FE-438F-A503-373D72DB3199@SUNN.com> <46C52BB6.5040305@sun.com> <46D76C3C.6020903@sun.com> <46E0C4C8.5050103@sun.com> <46E9CA09.1070408@sun.com> <46F33ED0.8050005@sun.com> <46FC1E63.2040605@sun.com> <4705534C.2040806@sun.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-177-697283823 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Attendees: Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, Chris Beams, Matthew Adams, Craig Russell Agenda: 1. Make more JDO APIs generic: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ JDO-538 query.execute(Object... ) doesn't work because it limits the ability to pass Object[] as a single parameter to a Query, for example to compare a field in an instance to an array. T[] makePersistentAll (T... pcs); seems like a good idea since it only requires a change to the implementation's signature; no change to the logic is needed. void makeTransientAll (boolean useFetchPlan, Object... pcs); seems good to add these new methods, and since we would now have two methods with different signatures but identical semantics, deprecate the old methods so users would know that the new shiny was the preferred method but applications would still compile and execute the same as they once did. 2. Proposed PMF changes (JDOHelper.getPersistenceManagerFactory section" email from Craig 10/1/2007) No comments yet; AI Matthew compare spec with existing implementation. 3. Other issues Final field persistence. Seems like a good thing to fully support this, but has some implementation issues. AI Chris Beams look into implementation issues. Action Items from weeks past: [Sep 14 2007] AI Matthew provide examples for 8.6.1.1 jdoconfig.xml. [June 22 2007] AI Craig discuss svn:eol-style on email. [June 22 2007] AI Craig write a proposal on annotation overrides for the expert group. [May 25 2007] AI everyone Download the Grails demo from grails.org and check it out. Also look at Grails/Groovy ExpandoMetaClass that has the magic to avoid reflection and enhancement. [May 25 2007] AI Matthew Adams prepare a proposal with just the basics of schema synchronization with jdo and orm metadata. [May 18 2007] AI Craig update http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/ CurrentDevelopment wiki page [Apr 27 2007] AI Craig review Query API and send email to experts. [Apr 27 2007] AI Erik file a JIRA regarding JPA style transactions and attach his discussion document to it. [Mar 9 2007] AI Craig: Update the spec to require that the key of the listener is the class name of the listener, for consistency with proposed xml.. [Mar 2 2007] AI Craig: update the JDOHelper class to include a string constant "META-INF/jdo.xml" and a new method getPersistenceManagerFactory taking no arguments. [Aug 11 2006] AI Craig propose some semantics for behavior if user tries to add to a list where the ordering element is incorrect. [Jul 14 2006] AI: Erik document 220 annotations that don't have a corresponding JDO concept. [Jun 23 2006] AI Martin look at what Hibernate and TopLink support for Enum types. In progress. [Apr 14 2006] AI Craig: update the roadmap for JDO. In progress. [Nov 4 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK 1.5 issues. In progress [Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web site. Articles on TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo. AI: Craig write a ServerSide article. -- Michelle Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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