Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-jdo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 3259 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2007 16:01:08 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 26 Sep 2007 16:01:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 97777 invoked by uid 500); 26 Sep 2007 16:00:44 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jdo-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jdo-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 97749 invoked by uid 99); 26 Sep 2007 16:00:44 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:00:44 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.133] (HELO sca-es-mail-2.sun.com) (192.18.43.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:00:43 +0000 Received: from fe-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-2.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l8QG0MIq023643 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-09.sun.com by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JOZ00M01G42LX00@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (c-24-6-172-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.172.77]) by fe-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JOZ00M7LGGGRJ30@fe-sfbay-09.sun.com>; Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 09:00:04 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: Persistence Capable Interfaces and Abstract Classes In-reply-to: <005801c80022$214139f0$0500000a@ILANC> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: Ilan Kirsh Cc: jdo-dev@db.apache.org, JDO Expert Group Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-68--85676233; micalg=sha1 X-Priority: 3 References: <002201c7ff98$1cd03ef0$0500000a@ILANC> <66EB04BE-8CF9-4635-A9D7-628B97B33CE9@SUN.com> <005801c80022$214139f0$0500000a@ILANC> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-68--85676233 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-67--85676312 --Apple-Mail-67--85676312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Ilan, You could start with the pm.newInstance method in 12.6.6 that is the way to instantiate the instances, and then look at the metadata descriptions in 18.5. Craig On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:46 AM, Ilan Kirsh wrote: > I wonder where in the spec persistence capable interfaces and > persistence capable abstract classes are discussed. > I have the Java Data Objects 2.1 specification draft from 13 June > 2007, and it seems that relevant sections (e.g. chapter 6) ignore > this issue. > > Ilan > > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --Apple-Mail-67--85676312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Ilan,

You could start with the = pm.newInstance method in 12.6.6 that is the way to instantiate the = instances, and then look at the metadata descriptions in = 18.5.

Craig

On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:46 AM, Ilan Kirsh wrote:

I wonder where in the = spec persistence capable = interfaces and persistence capable abstract classes=A0are = discussed.
I have the Java Data Objects 2.1 specification draft = from 13 June 2007, and it seems that relevant sections (e.g. chapter 6)=A0= ignore this issue.
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Craig Russell

Architect, Sun Java = Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo=

408 = 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com

P.S. A = good JDO? O, Gasp!


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