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From cbeams <cbe...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Persistence Capable Interfaces and Abstract Classes
Date Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:35:44 GMT
As we continue considering what Persistent Interfaces are really all  
about in the 2.1 timeline, let me reiterate my original need /  
expectation with this:

If I have a PC class MyPerson that implements persistent interface  

	public class Person {}
	public class MyPerson implements Person {}

I expect that I should be able to query by the person interface and  
retrieve all persistent instances of objects assignable to that  

	List<Person> people = (List<Person>) pm.newQuery 

Note here that I'm not using an Extent.  Typically, to return  
subtypes, we would need to do something like:

	pm.newQuery(new Extent(Person.class, true)); //...

However, this makes no sense when the type in question is an  
interface.  Thus I propose that queries taking interfaces as  
parameters implicitly return all implementing persistent instances.

I believe that this scenario represents the most basic, intuitive  
kind of use case possible when dealing with interfaces.  And, it is  
currently not supported.

Note that what I'm talking about here does not take into account any  
of the support for implementation generation (pm.newInstance()),  
etc..  I consider all that functionality, while perhaps useful, to be  
much more advanced.


- Chris

Chris Beams

On Sep 27, 2007, at 2:55 PM, Ilan Kirsh wrote:

> Thanks. It might be appropriate to mention persistent interfaces  
> also in chapter 6.
> Ilan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Craig L Russell
> To: Ilan Kirsh
> Cc: jdo-dev@db.apache.org ; JDO Expert Group
> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Persistence Capable Interfaces and Abstract Classes
> Hi Ilan,
> You could start with the pm.newInstance method in 12.6.6 that is  
> the way to instantiate the instances, and then look at the metadata  
> descriptions in 18.5.
> Craig
> On Sep 26, 2007, at 2:46 AM, Ilan Kirsh wrote:
>> I wonder where in the spec persistence capable interfaces and  
>> persistence capable abstract classes are discussed.
>> I have the Java Data Objects 2.1 specification draft from 13 June  
>> 2007, and it seems that relevant sections (e.g. chapter 6)  ignore  
>> this issue.
>> Ilan
> Craig Russell
> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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