Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-jdo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 4150 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2007 17:16:07 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 22 Jun 2007 17:16:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 88247 invoked by uid 500); 22 Jun 2007 17:16:11 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jdo-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jdo-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 88236 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jun 2007 17:16:11 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:16:11 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.43.132] (HELO sca-es-mail-1.sun.com) (192.18.43.132) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:16:06 -0700 Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.43.129]) by sca-es-mail-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l5MHFhSN000484 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JK100K01RPXYK00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Michelle.Caisse@Sun.COM) for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.150.22.58] by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JK100EHRRY6M2E0@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:15:49 -0700 From: Michelle Caisse Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, June 22, 9 am PDT]] Sender: Michelle.Caisse@Sun.COM To: Apache JDO project Message-id: <467C03C5.906@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_HzjK/amvAuye/MLpj1OkQA)" X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Boundary_(ID_HzjK/amvAuye/MLpj1OkQA) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT --Boundary_(ID_HzjK/amvAuye/MLpj1OkQA) Content-type: message/rfc822; name="Re: [Fwd: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, June 22, 9 am PDT]" Return-path: Received: from fe-sfbay-10.sun.com ([192.18.34.120]) by sfbay4-mail1.sfbay.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JK10023IRFTXD60@sfbay4-mail1.sfbay.sun.com> for Michelle.Caisse@Sun.COM; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-sfbay-10.sun.com by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0JK100A01RDVWO00@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for Michelle.Caisse@Sun.COM (ORCPT Michelle.Caisse@Sun.COM); Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.253.253] ([192.18.37.228]) by fe-sfbay-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0JK10000KRFTCK40@fe-sfbay-10.sun.com>; Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 10:04:31 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: [Fwd: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, June 22, 9 am PDT] In-reply-to: <467AFFC7.6070102@sun.com> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: Michelle Caisse Cc: JDO Expert Group Message-id: X-Envelope-from: Michelle.Caisse@Sun.COM X-Envelope-to: jdo-dev@db.apache.org MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Content-type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-187-213725824; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" References: <467AFFC7.6070102@sun.com> Original-recipient: rfc822;Michelle.Caisse@Sun.COM --Apple-Mail-187-213725824 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-186-213725592 --Apple-Mail-186-213725592 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Attendees: Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, Matthew Adams, Martin Zaun, Craig Russell Agenda: 1. svn repository: add svn:eol-style property for file with suffix .java, .jdo, .orm etc. This means that you get crlf in Windows and lf in other systems. The proposal is to use unix style line endings for this project for editable (non-binary) files. AI Craig discuss on email. 2. Annotation overrides - what does override mean? One proposal is that if a class or interface is specified in .jdo or .orm, then the entire class or interface annotations are ignored. AI Craig write a proposal for the expert group. 3. Annotations for embedded fields. The proposal to make another annotation for EbmeddedField doesn't seem to be necessary. But it's not obvious why multiple columns are needed for a single field. AI Craig reply to Andy's comments on https://issues.apache.org/jira/ browse/JDO-403. 4. Branching tck20: No objections. Will brach as soon as possible. 5. What about defining an enum like TriStateBoolean with TRUE, FALSE, UNDEFINED? No longer an issue. 6. Other issues In annotations the Table, SecondaryTable, and JoinTable have an element called table(). Other places, names are called name(). Why is there a difference? AI Michelle send email asking what the other table annotations are for, maybe get some Action Items from weeks past: [June 15 2007] AI Craig put spec somewhere for review. [May 25 2007] AI everyone Download the Grails demo from grails.org and check it out. Also look at Grails/Groovy ExpandoMetaClass that has the magic to avoid reflection and enhancement. [May 25 2007] AI Matthew Adams prepare a proposal with just the basics of schema synchronization with jdo and orm metadata. [May 18 2007] AI Craig update http://wiki.apache.org/jdo/ CurrentDevelopment wiki page [Apr 27 2007] AI Craig review Query API and send email to experts. [Apr 27 2007] AI Erik file a JIRA regarding JPA style transactions and attach his discussion document to it. [Mar 9 2007] AI Craig: Update the spec to require that the key of the listener is the class name of the listener, for consistency with proposed xml.. [Mar 2 2007] AI Craig: update the JDOHelper class to include a string constant "META-INF/jdo.xml" and a new method getPersistenceManagerFactory taking no arguments. [Aug 11 2006] AI Craig propose some semantics for behavior if user tries to add to a list where the ordering element is incorrect. [Jul 14 2006] AI: Erik document 220 annotations that don't have a corresponding JDO concept. [Jun 23 2006] AI Martin look at what Hibernate and TopLink support for Enum types. In progress. [Apr 14 2006] AI Craig: update the roadmap for JDO. In progress. [Nov 4 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK 1.5 issues. In progress [Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web site. Articles on TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo. AI: Craig write a ServerSide article. -- Michelle Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp! --Apple-Mail-186-213725592 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Attendees: Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, = Matthew Adams, Martin Zaun, Craig Russell

Agenda:

1. svn repository: add = svn:eol-style property for file with suffix .java, .jdo,=A0 .orm etc. This means that you = get crlf in Windows and lf in other systems. The proposal is to use unix = style line endings for this project for editable (non-binary) files. AI = Craig discuss on email.

2. Annotation = overrides - what does override mean? One proposal is that if a class or = interface is specified in .jdo or .orm, then the entire class or = interface annotations are ignored. AI Craig write a proposal for the = expert group.=A0

3. = Annotations for embedded fields. The proposal to make another annotation = for EbmeddedField doesn't seem to be necessary. But it's not obvious why = multiple columns are needed for a single field. AI Craig reply to Andy's = comments on=A0https://issues.apac= he.org/jira/browse/JDO-403.=A0

4. Branching = tck20: No objections. Will brach as soon as possible.

5. What about defining an enum like TriStateBoolean = with TRUE, FALSE,=A0 = UNDEFINED? No longer an issue.=A0

6. Other = issues

In = annotations the Table, SecondaryTable, and JoinTable have an element = called table(). Other places, names are called name(). Why is there a = difference? AI Michelle send email asking what the other table = annotations are for, maybe get some=A0

Action Items = from weeks past:

[June 15 2007]=A0= AI Craig put spec somewhere for review.

[May 25 = 2007]=A0 AI everyone = Download the Grails demo from grails.org and check it out. Also look at = Grails/Groovy ExpandoMetaClass that has the magic to avoid reflection = and enhancement.

[May 25 2007] AI Matthew Adams prepare a proposal = with just the basics of schema synchronization with jdo and orm = metadata.

[May 18 2007] AI Craig update http://wiki.apache.= org/jdo/CurrentDevelopment wiki page

[Apr 27 2007] = AI Craig review Query API and send email to experts.

[Apr 27 = 2007] AI Erik file a JIRA regarding JPA style transactions and attach = his discussion document to it.

[Mar 9 2007] AI Craig: Update = the spec to require that the key of the listener is the class name of = the listener, for consistency with proposed xml..

[Mar 2 = 2007] AI Craig: update the JDOHelper class to include a string constant = "META-INF/jdo.xml" and a new method getPersistenceManagerFactory taking = no arguments.

[Aug 11 2006] AI Craig propose some semantics for = behavior if user tries to add to a list where the ordering element is = incorrect.

[Jul 14 2006] AI: Erik document 220 annotations that = don't have a corresponding JDO concept.

[Jun 23 = 2006]=A0 AI=A0 Martin look at what Hibernate = and TopLink support for Enum types. In progress.

[Apr 14 = 2006] AI Craig: update the roadmap for JDO. In progress.

[Nov 4 = 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK=A0 1.5 issues. In = progress

[Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web = site. Articles on=A0 = TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo. = =A0 AI: =A0 Craig write a ServerSide = article.

-- Michelle


=

Craig = Russell

Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo=

408 = 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com

P.S. A = good JDO? O, Gasp!


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