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From Craig L Russell <Craig.Russ...@Sun.COM>
Subject Minutes: JDO TCK Conference Call Friday, Oct 6, 9 am PDT
Date Fri, 06 Oct 2006 17:44:14 GMT
Attendees: Matthew Adams, Michelle Caisse, Michael Bouschen, Martin  
Zaun, Craig Russell


1.  Test challenge issues and status: All but one challenge have been  
resolved. Challenge 9 has been accepted and is pending a patch for  
2.0.1. Challenge 10 will need to be split into multiple challenges  
because some are valid and some are not. 10a, 10b, 10c, and 10d are  
Michelle's suggestions. Some more research is needed on whether  
serializing a deleted instance is legal. In any case, the deleted  
instance should not be treated as detached at serialization.  
Persistent-nontransactional-dirty instances should not be allowed to  
be serialized.

2.  Reflection based implementations: No one opposed it; Ilan Kirsch  
liked it. No one volunteered to help with the work. This work will be  
dropped from 2.1 unless someone volunteers to help.

3.  JDOQL subquery proposal: No reply to Craig's reply to Wes and  
Michael; assume it is the basis for moving forward.

4.  Other issues

Discussion on a method by which the user could get a reference to a  
thread-local PersistenceManager. This would allow web applications to  
use an application static to store the PersistenceManager. AI Craig:  
discuss on expert group alias.

JDO-430 Why is there a mapped-by attribute on element element? We  
already have it on the field. Answer: for convenience it might be  
better for the user to put the mapping information into an element  
under field or embedded. AI Michelle change the test case to use  
field mapped-by instead of element mapped-by.

Action Items from weeks past:

[Sep 15 2006]  AI Craig discuss a request for enhancement of the TCK  
to permit  reflective implementations on aliases. Done. No one  
opposed it; Ilan Kirsch liked it. No one volunteered to help with the  

[Sep 1 2006] AI Matthew: look into a cleaner separation for object  
model vs. mapping annotations. AI Craig  check into default handling  
to accommodate different defaults based  on context. In progress.

[Sep 1 2006] AI Michael and Craig: propose spec updates for JDOQL  
subqueries for community  review. In progress. Wes Biggs proposed a  
new API that allows both single-string and API versions of subqueries  
that looks good.

[Sep 1 2006] AI Michelle update download page to refer to ibiblio  
(JDO-406). Done.

[Aug 11 2006] AI Craig propose some semantics for behavior if user  
tries to add to a list where the ordering element is incorrect.

[Aug 4 2006] AI: Craig call for a negative vote to approve returning  
a copy from getFetchGroups. Done.

[Jul 14 2006] AI: Erik document 220 annotations that don't have a   
corresponding JDO concept.

[Jul 14 2006] AI Erik write up JPOX behavior for deletion of objects   
when foreign-key is present. Done.

[Jun 23 2006]  AI Craig update ChangeLog and ChangeLog15 pages and  
ask for review by EG. AI  Martin look at what Hibernate and TopLink  
support for Enum types. In progress.

[Jun 2 2006] Additional query tests for projecting variables are in  
Craig's workspace. AI  Craig: file a JIRA with patches to be reviewed.

[Apr 14 2006] AI Craig: update the roadmap for JDO. In progress.

[Nov 4 2005] AI Martin: Update Martin's wiki with discusion of JDK  
1.5 issues. In progress

[Sep 2 2005] AI: To recruit members, update the web site. Articles on  
TheServerSide directing attention to the site. T-shirts, logo. AI:   
Craig write a ServerSide article.

Craig Russell
Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!

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