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From Michael Bouschen <mbo.t...@spree.de>
Subject Re: JDOQL Subquery proposals
Date Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:33:11 GMT
Hi Wes,

thanks for the feedback, it's definitely not too late.

I like your proposal. It allows subqueries being supported in both the 
SSJDOQL and the query API. I like the the idea of explicitly setting 
subquery's candidate collection by passing an expression of the outer 
query (and use the same mechanism for the parameters of the subquery). 
This solves the biggest problem I had with using a separate Query 
instance for the subquery: now the subquery instance is self-contained 
and compiles, because it does not explicitly use an expression from the 
outer query.

I'm just wondering whether we could find a more intuitive syntax, 
because name(candidateExpression[,parameterExpression...]) looks more 
like a method than a variable. Furthermore, as a corner case, it might 
be possible that a query uses more than one subquery. All the subqueries 
would have to be defined in a single call of outer.declareVariables. So 
how about, if we introduce a new method called addSubquery to bind a 
single subquery to the outer query. The method takes separate arguments 
for the candidate collection expression and the parameters (if any). 
Actually the parameter handling could be very similar to the parameters 
of the execute call:
  addSubquery(String variableDeclaration, Query subquery, String 
candidateCollectionExpr);
  addSubquery(String variableDeclaration, Query subquery, String 
candidateCollectionExpr, String parameter);
  addSubqueryWithArray(String variableDeclaration, Query subquery, 
String candidateCollectionExpr, String[] parameters);
  addSubqueryWithMap(String variableDeclaration, Query subquery, String 
candidateCollectionExpr, Map parameters);

Looking at the first example from below, the definition of the subquery 
would be the same. The only line that changes is the declareVariable 
call. It is replaced by:
  q.addSubquery(""float averageSalary", sub, "this.department.employees");

Just for completeness we should add a method to clear the subqueries, 
such that you can reuse the outer query and bind new subqueries for 
another execute call:
   clearSubqueries();

What do you think?

If we think the above is option I would come up with an updated summary 
of JDOQL changes to support subqueries and updated version of the sample 
queries.

Regards Michael

> I'm ridiculously late in responding to this thread but if I may be so 
> bold, I'll make a further suggestion.
>
> I like everything about the proposed approach except the requirement 
> that subquery definitions must resort to single-string JDOQL syntax, 
> even when using the API-based methods.  I think this introduces 
> asymmetry and discourages reuse and modularity.
>
> I would really like to see the ability to map variables to (sub)Query 
> objects.  There are two new capabilities introduced in the SSJDOQL 
> version, and my opinion is that the API should match these feature by 
> feature.  The two features are:
> (1) The ability for a subquery to use an expression defined on the 
> outer query as its candidate set.
> (2) The ability for a subquery to use expressions defined on the outer 
> query as parameters.
>
> Therefore, for parity, we need an API-based way to declare these 
> mappings, so that subqueries can be assigned both their candidate 
> collections and their parameters dynamically.
>
> I propose an overloaded version of declareVariables that allows 
> mapping variable names used in the outer query to (sub)Query instances 
> that are correlated with candidates and parameters.
>
> void declareVariables(String variableList, Query... subquery)
>
> The variable declaration syntax should be extended to allow 
> parameterized variables of the form 
> "name(candidateExpression[,parameterExpression...])".  "name" defines 
> a variable name in the query; "candidateExpression" defines an 
> expression (rooted in the namespace of the outer query) for the 
> candidate extent to be bound to the subquery, where "null" signifies 
> that the subquery candidate set is not being limited.  
> "parameterExpression" identifies dynamic values for parameters 
> declared by the subquery, again rooted in the namespace of the outer 
> query doing the binding.
>
> To touch up Michael's examples:
>
> Select employees who make more than the average of their department 
> employees?
>
> Single-string JDOQL:
> SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
> this.department.employees e)
> Query API:
> Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
>
> // Subquery definition is generic: for a given set of Employees, 
> return the average salary
> Query sub = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> sub.setResult("avg(salary)");
>
> // Bind the subquery to the master query by identifying the candidate set
> q.declareVariables("float averageSalary(this.department.employees)", 
> sub);
>
>> Select employees who make more than the average of the employees in 
>> their department at the same pay scale?
>
> Single-string JDOQL:
> SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary >
>   (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM this.department.employees e WHERE 
> e.payScale == this.payScale)
>
> Query API:
> Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
>
> // This subquery generically defines the average salary of a set of 
> Employees at a given PayScale
> Query sub = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> sub.setFilter("this.payScale == ps");
> sub.declareParameters("PayScale ps");
> sub.setResult("avg(salary)");
>
> // Bind both a candidate set and the payScale parameter.
> q.declareVariables("float averageSalary(this.department.employees, 
> this.payScale)", sub);
>
>> Select employees who make more than the average of all employees?
>
> Single-string JDOQL:
>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
> Employee e)
>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(this.salary) 
> FROM Employee)
>
> Query API:
> Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
> Query sub = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> sub.setResult("avg(salary)");
> // The null value indicates that we're not overriding the candidates 
> for the subquery
> // and thus it uses the entire extent of Employee
> q.declareVariables("float averageSalary(null)", sub);
>
>
>> Select employees named Joe who make more than the average of all 
>> employees?
>
> Single-string JDOQL:
> SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary > (SELECT 
> AVG(e.salary) FROM Employee e)
>
> Query API:
> Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> q.setFilter("this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary > averageSalary");
>
> // This subquery generically defines "the average of all employeees"
> Query sub = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> sub.setResult("avg(salary)");
>
> // Note we could have reused the query instance from the previous 
> example.
> q.declareVariables("float averageSalary(null)", sub);
>
>>
>> Select employees named Joe who make more than the average of all 
>> employees at the same pay scale?
>
> Single-string JDOQL:
> SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary >
>   (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM Employee e WHERE e.payScale == 
> this.payScale)
>
> Query API:
> Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> q.setFilter("this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary > averageSalary");
>
> // Note that this is the same subquery instance as the previous pay 
> scale example
> Query sub = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> sub.setFilter("payScale == ps");
> sub.declareParameters("PayScale ps");
> sub.setResult("avg(salary)");
>
> q.declareVariables("float averageSalary(null)", sub);
>
>> Select employees who make more than the average of all employees at 
>> the same pay scale?
>
> Single-string JDOQL:
> SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
> Employee e WHERE e.payScale == this.payScale)
>
> Query API:
> Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
>
> // Same again
> Query sub = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
> sub.setFilter("ps == this.payScale");
> sub.declareParameters("PayScale ps");
>
> q.declareVariables("float averageSalary(null, this.payScale)", sub);
>
> I'd like to hear other ideas for the exact syntax, but what do you 
> think of the general concept?
>
> Wes
>
>
> Michael Bouschen wrote:
>
>> Hi Craig,
>>
>> below I try summarize my understanding of what needs to be added in 
>> order to support subqueries:
>>
>> - Adding support for defining an alias for the elements of the 
>> candidate collection. If there is no explicit alias defined, 'this' 
>> is the default. This allows to disambiguate the candidate collection 
>> elements from the outer query and the subquery. In single-string 
>> JDOQL the alias follows the candidate class name in the FROM clause: 
>> 'FROM Employee e'. For the Query API I propose to add a new 
>> overloaded method Query.setClass(Class candidateClass, String alias).
>> - The variable declaration supports adding an initializer expression: 
>> q.declareVariables("type name = expr"). This allows using a subquery 
>> to define the value of a variable.
>> - The FROM clause of the subquery allows a collection relationship 
>> field or a collection variable as candidate collection.
>> - Subquery enclosed in parenthesis is a regular expression and can 
>> can appear everywhere as long as the typing is correct. So some 
>> subqueries might need to include a UNIQUE clause such that the typing 
>> is correct, e.g. if the result of a subquery is compared with a 
>> regular field:
>>  ... WHERE this.salary > (SELECT UNIQUE e.salary FROM Employee e 
>> WHERE e.pk == param)
>>
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> I came up with some more queries that I'd like to discuss as we 
>>> consider how to do subqueries. I haven't found a use case for 
>>> subqueries that themselves contain subqueries...
>>
>> Below you find my ideas for the single-string and Query API JDOQL for 
>> the queries you mentioned.
>>
>>>
>>> Select employees who make more than the average of their department 
>>> employees?
>>
>> Single-string JDOQL:
>>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
>> this.department.employees e)
>> Query API:
>>  Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
>>  q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
>>  q.declareVariables("float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
>> this.department.employees e");
>>
>>> Select employees who make more than the average of the employees in 
>>> their department at the same pay scale?
>>
>> Single-string JDOQL:
>>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary >
>>    (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM this.department.employees e WHERE 
>> e.payScale == this.payScale)
>>
>> Query API:
>>  Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
>>  q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
>>  q.declareVariables("float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
>> this.department.employees e WHERE e.payScale == this.payScale");
>>
>>> Select employees who make more than the average of all employees?
>>
>> Single-string JDOQL:
>>   SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
>> Employee e)
>>   SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(this.salary) 
>> FROM Employee)
>>
>> Query API:
>>  Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
>>  q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
>>  q.declareVariables("float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(this.salary) 
>> FROM Employee");
>>
>>> Select employees named Joe who make more than the average of all 
>>> employees?
>>
>> Single-string JDOQL:
>>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary > 
>> (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM Employee e)
>>
>> Query API:
>>  Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
>>  q.setFilter("this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary > averageSalary");
>>  q.declareVariables("float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(this.salary) 
>> FROM Employee");
>>
>>>
>>> Select employees named Joe who make more than the average of all 
>>> employees at the same pay scale?
>>
>> Single-string JDOQL:
>>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary >
>>    (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM Employee e WHERE e.payScale == 
>> this.payScale)
>>
>> Query API:
>>  Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
>>  q.setFilter("this.name == 'Joe' && this.salary > averageSalary");
>>  q.declareVariables("float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
>> Employee e WHERE e.payScale == this.payScale");
>>
>>> Select employees who make more than the average of all employees at 
>>> the same pay scale?
>>
>> Single-string JDOQL:
>>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > (SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
>> Employee e WHERE e.payScale == this.payScale)
>>
>> Query API:
>>  Query q = pm.newQuery(Employee.class);
>>  q.setFilter("this.salary > averageSalary");
>>  q.declareVariables("float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(e.salary) FROM 
>> Employee e WHERE e.payScale == this.payScale");
>>
>> Regards Michael
>>
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2006, at 3:18 PM, Michael Bouschen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I agree to what Craig mentioned in the JDO TCK minutes: method 
>>>> addSubquery separates the outer from the subquery. So it looks like 
>>>> that this approach cannot support correlated subqueries where the 
>>>> subquery iterates a collection field defined in the outer query. My 
>>>> preference is using variables declaration to support subqueries 
>>>> even in the Query API case.
>>>>
>>>> A query selecting employees earning more than the average salary 
>>>> could be:
>>>> SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > averageSalary
>>>>   VARIABLES float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(this.salary) FROM 
>>>> Employee
>>>>
>>>> But I still have problems with a correlated subquery. I'm looking 
>>>> for a query selecting employees earning more than the average 
>>>> salary of their department. The difference to the query above is 
>>>> that the candidates collection of the subquery: the employees 
>>>> collection of the department of the current employee and not the 
>>>> entire Employee extent. Here are some ideas to stimulate the 
>>>> discussion, but I'm not quite happy with these.
>>>> (1) Use a collection variable in the FROM clause of the subquery:
>>>>  SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > averageSalary
>>>>   VARIABLES Collection emps = this.department.employees;
>>>>      float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(this.salary) FROM emps
>>>> One issue is that 'this' is ambiguous: I would think that 'this' 
>>>> always refers to an instance of the inner most scope. But this 
>>>> means the subquery cannot directly access a field of the outer 
>>>> query. So the outer query declares a variable emps that may be used 
>>>> in the inner query. Maybe we need a special syntax to access the 
>>>> 'this' from the outer query.
>>>>
>>>> (2) The second form does not define any FROM clause, instead it 
>>>> uses a variable bound to a collection field of the outer query:
>>>> SELECT FROM Employee WHERE this.salary > averageSalary
>>>>  VARIABLES Employee e;
>>>>    float averageSalary = SELECT AVG(e.salary) WHERE 
>>>> this.department.employees.contains(e)
>>>> Since the subquery does not have a FROM clause, 'this' refers to 
>>>> the current Employee from the outer query.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, this is the query as Java Persistence API Query (formerly EJB 
>>>> QL):
>>>>  SELECT e FROM Employee e JOIN e.department d
>>>>  WHERE e.salary > (SELECT AVG(e2.salary) FROM d.employees e2)
>>>>
>>>> About the open issue: using the assignment operator ("=") versus 
>>>> the JDOQL keyword "AS": I vote for the assignment operator. The 
>>>> "AS" keyword is used in the result expression of the form 'expr AS 
>>>> name'. In a variable declaration it would have the form 'type name 
>>>> AS expr'. It might be confusing that the variable declaration swaps 
>>>> the order, because here the expr is right of the keyword, where it 
>>>> is on the other side in the result expression.
>>>>
>>>> Regards Michael
>>>>
>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are 2 proposals discussed in the Fri 9 Jun JDO conference call
>>>>> regarding support for subqueries in JDOQL, including single-string 
>>>>> and Query
>>>>> API enhancements, inspired by JPOX's proposed enhancement, 
>>>>> documented in
>>>>> JPOX JIRA issue CORE-2861
>>>>> (http://www.jpox.org/servlet/jira/browse/CORE-2861).  The string 
>>>>> and API
>>>>> enhancement proposals described here are designed to be used 
>>>>> hand-in-hand,
>>>>> as the folks on the call wanted to continue to provide compatible
>>>>> string-based and API-based usages.  In a nutshell, both proposals 
>>>>> hinge on
>>>>> the use of the exising facility to declare JDOQL variables (not JDOQL
>>>>> parameters) to bind subqueries to superqueries.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please read thoroughly, consider, and comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> --matthew
>>>>>
>>>>> PS:  Martin was on the hook to describe an alternative proposal 
>>>>> based on a
>>>>> future object pattern.  See separate proposal from him.
>>>>>
>>>>> <proposals>
>>>>>
>>>>> Query API support
>>>>> =================
>>>>> Proposal:  Introduce new method Query.addSubquery(String 
>>>>> variableName, Query
>>>>> subquery)
>>>>>
>>>>> This proposal entails utilizing the current Query API's 
>>>>> declareVariables
>>>>> facility and adding a method Query.addSubquery(String,Query) to 
>>>>> support
>>>>> subqueries.  Essentially, a subquery is bound to a superquery via 
>>>>> a variable
>>>>> declared for the superquery.  The implementation handles coercing the
>>>>> subquery's result into the type of the variable(s) declared in the
>>>>> superquery.  Queries can be nested to arbitrary levels.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example 1A:  Find people with above average income
>>>>>
>>>>> Query superquery1a = pm.newQuery("SELECT FROM Person WHERE income >
>>>>> averageIncome");
>>>>> superquery1a.declareVariables("BigDecimal averageIncome;");
>>>>>
>>>>> Query subquery1a = pm.newQuery("SELECT avg(income) FROM Person");
>>>>> superquery1a.addSubquery("averageIncome", subquery1a); // binds 
>>>>> subquery to
>>>>> superquery
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Example 2A:  Find average income of fathers using subquery
>>>>>
>>>>> Query superquery2a = pm.newQuery("SELECT avg(income) FROM fathers");
>>>>> // in next line, Collection<Parent> derived from subquery
>>>>> superquery2a.declareVariables("Collection fathers;");
>>>>>
>>>>> Query subquery2a = pm.newQuery("SELECT FROM Person WHERE gender == 
>>>>> 'M' &&
>>>>> children.size() > 0");
>>>>> superquery2a.addSubquery("fathers", subquery2a); // binds subquery to
>>>>> superquery
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Example 3A:  Find average income of fathers using a single Query 
>>>>> instance
>>>>> Note:  this example's usage is required if the grammar 
>>>>> specification of the
>>>>> variables clause remains the same (as it currently is) in the API 
>>>>> and string
>>>>> forms (see JDO 2.0 spec sections 14.6.5 & 14.6.13).
>>>>>
>>>>> Query superquery3a = pm.newQuery("SELECT avg(income) FROM fathers");
>>>>> // in next line, Collection<Parent> derived from subquery
>>>>> superquery3a.declareVariables(
>>>>>     "Collection fathers = SELECT FROM Person WHERE gender == 'M' &&
>>>>> children.size() > 0;");
>>>>>
>>>>> Pros:
>>>>>   * Maintains backward compatibility.
>>>>>   * Enhances performance by allowing for the deferral of query 
>>>>> execution
>>>>> until entire query with subqueries is defined.  Current Query API 
>>>>> support
>>>>> requires the execution of the subquery, then execution of the 
>>>>> superquery;
>>>>> current JDOQL string spec doesn't allow for subqueries at all.
>>>>>   * Grammar of the variables clause undergoes the same 
>>>>> enhancements in both
>>>>> the single-string and the API.
>>>>>   * Compatible with single-string enhancement proposal below
>>>>>
>>>>> Cons:
>>>>>   * Type coercion becomes more complicated than just autoboxing.
>>>>>   * Requires that variables may always have to be explicitly defined.
>>>>>   * Possibility that type of candidate collection of superquery 
>>>>> must be
>>>>> derived (see example 2A above), or may not be known.
>>>>>   * Possibility of using variables in place of both parameters and 
>>>>> candidate
>>>>> collections.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Single-string proposal
>>>>> ======================
>>>>> Proposal:  Use the existing VARIABLES JDOQL keyword in order to be
>>>>> compatible with the Query API proposal above.
>>>>>
>>>>> This proposal is very similar to JPOX JIRA CORE-2861
>>>>> (http://www.jpox.org/servlet/jira/browse/CORE-2861), which 
>>>>> proposes the
>>>>> introduction of a new JDOQL keyword "WITH" to introduce typed and 
>>>>> named
>>>>> subquery results.  To make this more compatible with the Query API 
>>>>> proposal
>>>>> above and to avoid the need to introduce a new keyword to JDOQL, the
>>>>> existing JDOQL keyword "VARIABLES" would be used to introduce 
>>>>> typed and
>>>>> named subqueries, except that the variable(s) would be intialized 
>>>>> via the
>>>>> assignment operator, "=", or the "AS" keyword (TBD) at declaration 
>>>>> time with
>>>>> a valid JDOQL expression.  Variables would continue to be
>>>>> semicolon-delimited.  Additionally, Query.toString(), for queries 
>>>>> that
>>>>> employ subqueries, returns JDOQL strings that use this syntax.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example 1S:  Find people with above average income using subquery 
>>>>> (similar
>>>>> to example 1A)
>>>>>
>>>>> SELECT FROM Person WHERE income > averageIncome
>>>>>   VARIABLES float averageIncome =
>>>>>     SELECT avg(income) FROM Person;
>>>>>
>>>>> Example 2S:  Find average income of fathers using a subquery 
>>>>> (similar to
>>>>> example 2A)
>>>>>
>>>>> SELECT avg(income) FROM parents
>>>>>   VARIABLES Collection parents =
>>>>>     SELECT FROM Parent WHERE gender == 'M' && children.size()
> 0;
>>>>>
>>>>> Pros:
>>>>>   * Continues to use existing JDOQL keywords.
>>>>>   * Grammar of the variables clause undergoes the same 
>>>>> enhancements in both
>>>>> the single-string and the API.
>>>>>   * Compatible with Query API proposal above.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cons:
>>>>>   * More verbose than introducing "WITH" keyword.  Implicit, unnamed
>>>>> variables would not be supported, unless the following syntax were 
>>>>> supported
>>>>> (from example 2S), where the tokens "VARIABLES Collection parents" is
>>>>> implied.
>>>>>   SELECT avg(income) FROM parents =
>>>>>     SELECT FROM Parent WHERE gender == 'M' && children.size()
> 0;
>>>>>   This syntax is admittedly less verbose and more like SQL 
>>>>> subqueries, but
>>>>> leaves open the typing and naming of the implicit, unnamed variables.
>>>>>   * Possibility of using variables in place of both parameters and 
>>>>> candidate
>>>>> collections.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Open issues
>>>>> ===========
>>>>>
>>>>> * Can type derivation & coercion of JDOQL variables be performed

>>>>> in all
>>>>> cases?
>>>>> * These proposals use the assignment operator ("=").  Should we use
>>>>> assignment via the JDOQL keyword "AS" instead or in addition to the
>>>>> assignment operator?
>>>>> * This proposal requires that JDOQL variables be allowed to 
>>>>> substitute for
>>>>> both JDOQL parameters and candidate collections.  Should this be 
>>>>> allowed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> </proposals>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Erik Bengtson [mailto:erik@jpox.org] Sent: Wednesday, June

>>>>>> 07, 2006 7:57 AM
>>>>>> To: jdo-experts-ext@sun.com; jdo-dev@db.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: any plans to support subqueries with similar concept as

>>>>>> in sql
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need the ability to work with multiple sets in the same query.

>>>>>> It includes
>>>>>> performing operations between sets, numeric functions like 
>>>>>> average or sum,
>>>>>> etc..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In JPOX it will implemented as exemplified here
>>>>>> http://www.jpox.org/servlet/jira/browse/CORE-2861
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly, JDOQL 2 is not capable to compete with JPQL in this aspect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regardless the above issue, are there plans to expand the JDOQL 
>>>>>> or even JDO 2 in
>>>>>> general based on new user requests/requirements?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Erik Bengtson
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --Michael Bouschen        Tech@Spree Engineering GmbH
>>>> mailto:mbo.tech@spree.de    http://www.tech.spree.de/
>>>> Tel.:++49/30/235 520-33        Buelowstr. 66           
>>>> Fax.:++49/30/2175 2012        D-10783 Berlin          
>>>
>>>
>>> Craig Russell
>>> Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo
>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com
>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>
>>
>>


-- 
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