Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-jdo-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 91598 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2005 19:48:55 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Jan 2005 19:48:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 63935 invoked by uid 500); 14 Jan 2005 19:48:55 -0000 Mailing-List: contact jdo-dev-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list jdo-dev@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 63920 invoked by uid 99); 14 Jan 2005 19:48:55 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from brmea-mail-3.Sun.COM (HELO brmea-mail-3.sun.com) (192.18.98.34) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:54 -0800 Received: from fe2.sun.com ([192.18.108.79]) by brmea-mail-3.sun.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j0EJmrVu017931 for ; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:48:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from conversion-daemon.fe2.sun.com by fe2.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.02 (built Aug 25 2004)) id <0IAB00001M9KBN00@fe2.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:48:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [129.145.133.145] by fe2.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.02 (built Aug 25 2004)) with ESMTPSA id <0IAB00459ODGC9D1@fe2.sun.com> for jdo-dev@db.apache.org; Fri, 14 Jan 2005 12:48:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 11:48:45 -0800 From: Craig Russell Subject: Re: Database (was: RE: Questions) In-reply-to: <001a01c4fa70$f7c94360$0263a8c0@DELLZILLA> To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org Message-id: <4CEB9CB2-6665-11D9-A87A-000A95BCB4AE@Sun.COM> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE References: <001a01c4fa70$f7c94360$0263a8c0@DELLZILLA> X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N We are going to build a ddl generator program as part of the tck, but= I=20 agree with Matthew that we might not have time to pull it off. So we= =20 need to define the various test cases, object model, mapping, databas= e=20 schema, and test data. We will have to hand construct the database= =20 schema to begin with, and we should discuss what schema it should be. Considering that we're an Apache Database project, the natural choice= =20 would be Derby, but considering that we might have time for only one,= =20 we might choose "SQL92" since deltas from the standard would probably= =20 be the JDO implementation's responsibility. Craig On Jan 14, 2005, at 11:40 AM, Matthew T. Adams wrote: > The problem with being able to run against any database is the > difference in SQL dialects. While I would like the ideal, I don't = know > that we have the resources to actually pull it off. Remember, time= is > of the essence here; the specification is nearly complete, but can'= t be > officially final until the RI & TCK are done. > > --matthew > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Brian McCallister [mailto:brianm@apache.org] >> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 11:17 AM >> To: jdo-dev@db.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Questions >> >> >> I would suggest Derby or in-memory HSQLDB for system tests =3D) Th= at >> said, i would definitely recommend making it really easy to run te= sts >> against any supported database. Ideally a one line config change i= n >> build process, or override via an ant -D switch. >> >> -Brian >> >> On Jan 14, 2005, at 1:55 PM, Matthew T. Adams wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> =A0 >>> A few questions: >>> =A0 >>> * When will someone be uploading the next update to the private J= DO >>> area? >>> * Is there a preferred IDE that we should use in order to lessen = the >>> impedance while getting started? >>> * Have we selected a particular database to test against? >>> =A0 >>> --matthew >>> =A0 >>> Matthew T. Adams >>> Corporate Technical Advisor & Senior Consultant >>> Mobile:=A0 +1 253 732 1051 >>> Phone:=A0 +1 206 331 3833 >>> Fax:=A0 +1 360 937 9616 >>> matthew.adams@xcalia.com >>> P.O. Box 24163 >>> Federal Way, WA=A0 98093 >>> www.xcalia.com >>> =A0 >>> =A0 >>> Xcalia helps businesses address the challenge of Enterprise >>> Information Access in=A0a heterogeneous environment.=A0 We provid= e >>> products and services that facilitate the two-way exchange of >>> information between individuals, mission-critical applications, a= nd >>> databases.=A0 Our customers enjoy improved performance, reduced >>> operating and development costs, faster time to market, and >>> rejuvenated legacy systems. >>> =A0 >> > > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jd= o 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!