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I asked earlier but didn't get an answer, I don't think.

Why would you like to come to the ASF?

geir


Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Brian McCallister wrote:
>> So, I'm very happy to help mentor (the Official Incubator Role and the 
>> actual verb, as it relates to working within Apache) Cayenne, and 
>> would love to see this work out! I just am trying to go with the TLP 
>> preference vibe going around, and that Cayenne has been around a while 
>> I don't want to cramp their style.
> 
> Brian,
> 
> thank you for your support! Actually TLP would be our choice as well, 
> and exactly for the reason that you mentioned. As Bill said we are not 
> well-connected with ASF, so we started looking for support in the 
> communities where we see synergies. And I am glad that we found it :-)
> 
> So how do we proceed now? Should we take the discussion on one of the 
> incubator lists?
> 
> 
>> It may be worth pinging the Tapestry folks as well as I have seen a 
>> lot of Cayenne use within the Tapestry community, and they are an 
>> energetic bunch.
> 
> Good idea. Just sent a message to tapestry-dev:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/tapestry-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg04867.html
> 
> 
> On Feb 20, 2006, at 5:33 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr wrote:
>>> Why do they want to come to Apache?
> 
> Answering Geir's question... I elaborated a bit on that in the message 
> to tapestry-dev above. Let me expand.
> 
> Cayenne has a five year history of providing strong and unique 
> persistence framework. During this time we've built a vibrant grassroots 
> community with zero corporate sponsorship. And while things look good 
> for Cayenne now and can stay the way they are for any foreseeable 
> future, we are always looking for ways to expand the community and to 
> bring our ideas to a wider audience.
> 
> So why Apache? It just seems natural. Back in the day when we set up 
> ObjectStyle.org, we looked at Apache as an example of how an open source 
> collaborative environment should work. And we succeeded in building one, 
> on a smaller scale. Now making Cayenne an ASF project is a logical next 
> step. And note that we are taking our current community with us, not 
> just throwing the code over the wall.
> 
> Also we are willing to collaborate with other projects if there is a 
> natural synergy. For instance we recently announced that Cayenne will be 
> implementing JPA (ORM part of JSR-220). So we are closely watching the 
> related activities in Geronimo. I already contributed a number of 
> JPA-related things to Open EJB and at the end the plan is to contribute 
> Cayenne JPA provider to Geronimo. I am sure other synergies will become 
> more obvious once we are in.
> 
> 
> Andrus
> 
> ------------------------------
> Andrei (aka Andrus) Adamchik
> Cayenne Persistence Framework
> Lead Architect
> http://objectstyle.org/cayenne/
> 
> 
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