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Subject: RE: Hello
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 11:45:25 -0700
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Thread-Topic: Hello
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From: "Scott Sanders" <ssanders@nextance.com>
To: <db@apache.org>

Geir is absolutely right here.  Poolman is a huge product, regardless of =
the implementation.

We say here at apache that the community is important, and PoolMan =
arguably has probably the largest user community with the exception of =
httpd itself.

This is a very powerful thing.  I am 100% behind supporting PoolMan as =
the keystone for db.apache.org, even though most of you probably would =
not.

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@adeptra.com]=20
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: db@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hello
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> You don't get it - Poolman has a huge user base.  Many=20
> companies (all I regularly consult for, and they were using=20
> it before I showed up), the DOD, etc, etc, etc.  If the mood=20
> is to just discard to start fresh with untested, unused code,=20
> that's fine - Poolman can stay where it is.  History has=20
> repeatedly shown the value and importance of mindshare and=20
> momentum.  Don't discard that for technical superiority, as=20
> that can be added over time.
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> The point of bringing poolman is in support of one of the=20
> principles of the ASF - to ensure that open source projects=20
> can survive their initial developers.  In this case, the=20
> initial developer did the right thing in one way, and got=20
> hung by it - he kept the # of committers to 1 (himself)=20
> because of the LGPL and wanted the freedom.  That means we=20
> don't have to fight with anyone for clear title to the code,=20
> but have to boostrap the developers. That=B9s the cost.
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> That said, with Poolman you get a *huge* commercial user=20
> base.  That means that we can take advantage of the brand to=20
> incorporate good things created here at Jakarta.  However,=20
> whatever is done has to be managed carefully to keep things=20
> compatible and stable.
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> geir
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> --=20
> Geir Magnusson Jr.
> Research & Development, Adeptra Inc.
> geirm@adeptra.com
> +1-203-247-1713
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