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From "Scott Sanders" <ssand...@nextance.com>
Subject RE: Hello
Date Thu, 09 May 2002 18:45:25 GMT
Geir is absolutely right here.  Poolman is a huge product, regardless of the implementation.

We say here at apache that the community is important, and PoolMan arguably has probably the
largest user community with the exception of httpd itself.

This is a very powerful thing.  I am 100% behind supporting PoolMan as the keystone for db.apache.org,
even though most of you probably would not.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:geirm@adeptra.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 11:40 AM
> To: db@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Hello
> You don't get it - Poolman has a huge user base.  Many 
> companies (all I regularly consult for, and they were using 
> it before I showed up), the DOD, etc, etc, etc.  If the mood 
> is to just discard to start fresh with untested, unused code, 
> that's fine - Poolman can stay where it is.  History has 
> repeatedly shown the value and importance of mindshare and 
> momentum.  Don't discard that for technical superiority, as 
> that can be added over time.
> The point of bringing poolman is in support of one of the 
> principles of the ASF - to ensure that open source projects 
> can survive their initial developers.  In this case, the 
> initial developer did the right thing in one way, and got 
> hung by it - he kept the # of committers to 1 (himself) 
> because of the LGPL and wanted the freedom.  That means we 
> don't have to fight with anyone for clear title to the code, 
> but have to boostrap the developers. That¹s the cost.
> That said, with Poolman you get a *huge* commercial user 
> base.  That means that we can take advantage of the brand to 
> incorporate good things created here at Jakarta.  However, 
> whatever is done has to be managed carefully to keep things 
> compatible and stable.
> geir
> -- 
> Geir Magnusson Jr.
> Research & Development, Adeptra Inc.
> geirm@adeptra.com
> +1-203-247-1713

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