Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 78799 invoked from network); 20 May 2009 18:35:14 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.3) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 20 May 2009 18:35:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 86550 invoked by uid 500); 20 May 2009 18:35:26 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 86475 invoked by uid 500); 20 May 2009 18:35:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 86467 invoked by uid 99); 20 May 2009 18:35:26 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 May 2009 18:35:26 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [67.103.199.55] (HELO dbrack01.segel.com) (67.103.199.55) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 20 May 2009 18:35:16 +0000 Received: from Desktop02 (desktop02.segel.com [67.103.199.45]) by dbrack01.segel.com (Postfix - We shoot spammers on site.) with ESMTP id 9AE765E3F5 for ; Wed, 20 May 2009 13:40:13 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: Sender: "Michael Segel" To: "'Derby Discussion'" Subject: RE: FEHLER XJ001: Java-Ausnahme: ': java.lang.NullPointerException'. Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:34:38 -0500 Organization: MSCC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcnZbdhHJt7O4aj4SCaULgpX9nJkQwAALoLg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <4A143814.2090804@sbcglobal.net> Message-Id: <20090520184013.9AE765E3F5@dbrack01.segel.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathey Marsden [mailto:kmarsdenderby@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:04 PM > To: Derby Discussion > Subject: Re: FEHLER XJ001: Java-Ausnahme: ': > java.lang.NullPointerException'. > > derby@segel.com wrote: > > > Please be nice. It is possible suggest improvements without being so > critical. We welcome the bug report. Too often users work around issues > and don't report them. We should give a civil response to encourage > user participation in the community. > > Kathey Kathey, still with IBM? (Sorry, but your name seems familiar...) Sorry to be a buzz kill, but I just reread my post. Did I insult the OP, or the query? Not that queries have feelings. For all I know, the query wasn't written by the OP and that the OP was given the task to port an application from Oracle to Derby and that they inherited this garbage. Do you think that the query is well written? Do you think that joining 25 tables in a single join is a good idea? Taking any ego/id or personality out of the equation, I did not just say that they query was shit, but explained *why* it was shit. I would have gone further in suggesting ways to rewrite the query, but I don't know the business rules or what problem that the query was trying to solve. (Which is why I asked.) The query as written was too convoluted and frankly I'm not being paid to solve someone else's work. If you want to play mom, then rather than chastise me for being blunt and to the point, why don't you offer some assistance to the OP. She did ask for help and frankly, just telling her that you confirmed the 'defect' and telling her how to file a JIRA is really no help at all. Perhaps you would have been less critical if I had said shite instead of shit? Frankly, my response to the OP was probably more beneficial than Kristian telling her on how to file a JIRA report because it gave her some suggestions about fixing her problem. But then again, I'm biased. But hey! My post was an attempt at trying to help the OP. What's the value of yours?