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From "David Van Couvering" <da...@vancouvering.com>
Subject Re: Derby and character set encodings
Date Thu, 06 Sep 2007 19:51:03 GMT
I think I can actually answer some of these questions :)

On 9/6/07, Ken Frank <Ken.Frank@sun.com> wrote:
> Thanks David for sending this.
>
> Let me note a few questions:
>
> 1.  when one creates a new database,
> is the database created with a certain encoding that will be used ?
>
> And if so, is that encoding that of the locale I am in when I run
> the create database commands or is it utf-8 always ?
> (for example, for one of the Japanese locales of Solaris, the encoding of it
> is euc-jp)
>
> or could it be that of the encoding of the locale the actual dbase server
> is started in ?  (which might be java's view of the users locale/encoding
> which would be I think the same as the OS locale user is in)
>
> I saw this from derby docs:
> "To support users in many different languages, Derby's SQL parser
> understands all Unicode characters and allows any Unicode character or
> number to be used in an identifier."
>
> but I don't know if it means that there is no concept of an encoding
> for a database itself or not.
>
> I think with Oracle for example, there is an argument to create database
> that lets one specify the encoding of it.
>

This question stumps me, I'll leave it to others...

>
>
> 2.  The locale the user is in when starting derby server -
> what things are affected by that - ie encoding of dbase, messages to
> user (if translated), time, date, etc ?
> (vs user needing to set separate variables or properties)
>

I don't know what "encoding of the dbase" means, but the other display
stuff: exception messages, time and date and money formats, etc., are
all controlled by locale.

> 3.  I think its allowed for identifiers like database names,
> table and column names, to have non ascii in them, if proper
> quoting is used when referring to them  ?
>

Yes, that's right.

>
> Thanks - Ken
>
>
> David Van Couvering wrote:
>
> >Hi, all.  I am getting some questions from Ken Frank NetBeans
> >internationalization quality team about Java DB and character set
> >encodings.  Rather than try and play go-between, I'm including him
> >here so he can directly ask any follow-on questions.
> >
> >Ken would like to understand how Derby makes use of character
> >encodings, and how it is affected by  various settings.  How does
> >Derby handle things if the encoding is set to something different from
> >our default of UTF-8?  Are we impacted, or do we rely on Java routines
> >such as the Collator and Comparator class to handle this?
> >
> >Sorry if I'm talking out my ear, i18n is not one of my fortes.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >David
> >
> >
>

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