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From "Petrula, Dan" <DPetr...@thezenith.com>
Subject RE: Password Authentication Failure
Date Thu, 24 May 2007 16:49:20 GMT
I have been working with Derby for about a year in the embedded mode, so
I am not unfamilar with the product. I looked at the FAQ about the
schema exists
error. I have created a simple table and populated it. I created the
database in two different configuarations . One without a name and
password upon creation and
one with. The client is a Windows machine running XP and the server is
linux running Red Hat, connected by a LAN using TCP/IP. 
I can connect to the database and select the data in the table without
problem under both database configurations. If I set
then I cannot connect at all to the database created without a
name/password even using 'APP' and even adding 'derby.user.dan=danpass'
in the derby.properties
file. I can connect and select in the database created with a user
name/password as long as I use that name/password combination. If I add
another name in the
derby.properties file, using derby.authentication.provider=BUILTIN I
cannot connnect and get the Schema error.
The connection statement is as follows:
Properties prop = new Properties();
String driver = "org.apache.derby.jdbc.ClientDriver";
String dbURL =
I removed the statement 'derby.connection.requireAuthenticaion=true'
from the properties file and added it to the database directly using the
'call' statement.
I also added a few names using this method both using ij utility. The
database then required a user/name password, but the names I added were
not recognized when
I attempted to connect after changing my Properties object to those
names. I still got the same schema error.
I am at loss as to what to do or try next.


From: Francois Orsini [mailto:francois.orsini@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:45 PM
To: Derby Discussion
Subject: Re: Password Authentication Failure


The error you posted is not an authentication failure one but It would
be great to get more info - The default schema is 'APP' when no user
name (or 'APP') is passed to connect to Derby. Are you trying to access
some tables which have not been created yet - That would cause this
error to be raised too...Are you getting this error right upon the
connection request or are you sending some statements - if you could
post all the attributes that you're passing to the
DriverManager.getConnection() call, that would be good too...

You might want to check this FAQ entry about this type of error:

Derby's BUILTIN (default) authentication provider can be set at the
system or database level. The BUILTIN authentication scheme will use
system-wide properties if they have not been overriden by database
properties - users can be created at the system or / and database level
(database properties). If a user does not get authenticated
successfully, you should get an authentication failure error. 

Also, user system properties are static ones, which means you will need
to restart the server for new ones to be taken into account...

Hope this helps a bit,


On 5/23/07, Petrula, Dan <DPetrula@thezenith.com> wrote: 

	I am using a client-server configuration with the datebase
located on a separate server. If I set
'derby.connection.requireAuthentication=true' ,
	'derby.authentication.provider=BUILTIN' , and
'derby.user.dan=danpass' in the derby.properties file, I get the error
message SQLException:Schema 'DAN'
	does not exist. I am passing a Properties object containing the
password name/value pairs as an attribute to the connection url
	I would like to set system-wide properties using the 'BUILTIN'
authenication provider. There are many examples in Derby documents
showing the
	 passing of a Properties object or just string value pairs
combinations to Derby.
	However, I came upon a note on page 9 of "Tuning Derby" dated
12-11-06. This notes says "If you pass in a Properties object as an
argument to the
	DriverManager.getConnection call when connecting to the
database, those properties are used as a database connection URL
attribute, not as properties
	of the type discussed in this book".
	I am not sure how to interpret that statement. However, it seems
to imply that:
	    1. It is not possible to authenticate using system-wide
properties by passing a password name/value pair as an attribute.
	    2. The only way to validate by passing an attribute seems to
be at the database level.
	    3. I am assuming the use of the 'BUILTIN' authentication
	If I create the database using user=dan & password=danpass
during the creation process, I can connect to the database by passing
the Properties object
	and setting derby.connection.requireAuthentication=true. If I
don't set the authentication and don't pass the Properties object, I can
connect to the database.
	If I am correct in my numbered statements, what is the purpose
of the 'BUILTIN' option as an authentication provider using system-wide
properties? It does not
	appear that it can be used.
	Of course maybe I just don't understand this authentication
	Anyone have any comments?



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