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From "Damian C" <jami...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: license
Date Mon, 28 May 2007 02:08:12 GMT
Absolutely correct in this case. I was clearly wrong.

As I have tried to make clear - I am not a lawyer - just someone who
is trying to help freely.  I'm not reviewing these licenses and
providing a legal opinion. I didn't go and read up on the LGPL clause
by clause.  I was trying to help Jim who (I guess) knew less than me
and was requesting help.

My point (which I wish I could have made more clearly) is that WE (me,
Jim, others) have no unilateral right to change THEIR (eg Hibernate
etc) license.  In this case THEIR (eg Hibernate's) LGPL license gives
the right to substitute a GPL.

We successfully use and comply with various license including LGPL,
Apache, CDDL, BSD etc.. I have never released anything with GPL so I'm
light on experience their.  I guess it shows!!


On 5/28/07, Daniel Noll <daniel@nuix.com> wrote:
> On Monday 28 May 2007 11:33:23 Damian C wrote:
> > Jim,
> > I should/could have said it more clearly earlier - but to clarify now
> > (to the best of my NON lawyer's knowledge) ...
> >
> > Hibernate is LGPL. You are entitled to use (link to) the LIBRARIES
> > (hibernate3.jar etc) in your application, but I believe you can't use
> > the source code itself..  Using hibernate in your application does NOT
> > mean Hibernate now has the GPL license. You have no right to change
> > their (LGPL) license.
> But what about this clause in the LGPL?
>   3. You may opt to apply the terms of the ordinary GNU General Public License
>      instead of this License to a given copy of the Library. To do this, you
>      must alter all the notices that refer to this License, so that they refer
>      to the ordinary GNU General Public License, version 2, instead of to this
>      License.
> This is clearly one way to make a mixed GPL/LGPL product -- change the licence
> on all LGPL components to GPL.
> Daniel
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