Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 48996 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2007 15:44:41 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (140.211.11.2) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 18 Apr 2007 15:44:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 35986 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2007 15:44:46 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 35956 invoked by uid 500); 18 Apr 2007 15:44:46 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 35944 invoked by uid 99); 18 Apr 2007 15:44:46 -0000 Received: from herse.apache.org (HELO herse.apache.org) (140.211.11.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:44:46 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=UNPARSEABLE_RELAY X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (herse.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [192.18.42.249] (HELO nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com) (192.18.42.249) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:44:39 -0700 Received: from d1-sfbay-09.sun.com ([192.18.39.119]) by nwk-ea-fw-1.sun.com (8.13.6+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id l3IFiIgH022153 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from conversion-daemon.d1-sfbay-09.sun.com by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) id <0JGP00501AB1E300@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> (original mail from Craig.Russell@Sun.COM) for derby-user@db.apache.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [129.146.30.48] by d1-sfbay-09.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPSA id <0JGP00BAVADU3O80@d1-sfbay-09.sun.com> for derby-user@db.apache.org; Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 08:44:16 -0700 From: Craig L Russell Subject: Re: commit then read immediately In-reply-to: <4625ED86.601@free.fr> Sender: Craig.Russell@Sun.COM To: Derby Discussion Message-id: <8AD1B42E-EC83-4D4B-81D0-CA637F0A97BE@SUN.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary=Apple-Mail-13-1035361776; micalg=sha1 References: <4625ED86.601@free.fr> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --Apple-Mail-13-1035361776 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi, On Apr 18, 2007, at 3:05 AM, frederic barachant wrote: > Hello. > I have an application which initialises a database upon first start > then immediately starts using it. > Initialisation consists in writing objects through jpa. After > commit is done, the program starts and reads back those data. > Unfortunatly unless i set a slight sleep() after commit, data are > not read back on first launch, so it seems that there is a delay > between the moment when data is commited and the moment when it is > accessible. This is of course not acceptable for my application as > everything written must be immediately readable. > > Is my analysis correct? Immediately after a commit the data should be available to another Derby application (including other JPA implementations). But the behavior can be affected by caching done by the JPA layer. Are the reader and writer in different processes? Then caching is definitely on your list of "to be investigated". If there's no caching, I can't think of anything that might cause this. Another possibility is that you are not managing relationships correctly (on both sides of the relationship). And the access pattern relies on navigating relationships instead of querying or finding instances by key. > Is there a way to prevent this if it is a known behavior? It's unlikely that this is a Derby issue. Have you tried multiple JPA implementations? Have you asked this same question on your JPA implementation's forum? Good luck, Craig > > I am using derby 10.2.2 in jdk6u1 on XP. > > Thank you. > Craig Russell Architect, Sun Java Enterprise System http://java.sun.com/products/jdo 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@sun.com P.S. A good JDO? 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