This is all very helpful.  I will make a few notes however that you can take away from this...

The method to implement encrypted passwords is far too complicated and involved for someone like myself who just wants to set up a secure server.
This is mainly because nothing is said about what has to be done client side to ensure that the password being transmitted is what the server will end up wanting.  Does the derby client network driver automatically encrypt passwords once the property is placed in the connection string?

It seems like there is a glut of property settings being used here on both client and server side and my wires are getting crossed trying to keep them straight.  Ultimately this is impacting how easy it is to configure a derby server.  Perhaps is there an index of connection string and server properties somewhere?

How do I distinguish when a setting is for a database, or the system?

Do properties that I set via a configuration file get retained between loads - as in, is it a needed only once thing?  Can I delete the file and still have it's settings taking effect on a database between loads?  Entire DB instance?

- Alexander Trauzzi

On 2/20/07, Andrew McIntyre <> wrote:
On 2/20/07, Alexander Trauzzi <> wrote:
> Awesome, I'm glad I can collect all these hidden links, but the issue of per
> user authentication, similar to what MySQL and other databases offer is
> still blocking me.

Perhaps the issue here is that the information you are looking for is
not in the Server and Administration guide, but in the Developer's

Have you read through the "Derby and Security" section here:

Specifically, to use Derby's built-in user authentication and create
the users and passwords for a database:

e.g., to create a user 'andrew' with password of 'newderbyuser' you
can call, in ij:

    'derby.user.andrew', 'newderbyuser')

Then to enable the builtin authentication, you need to start the
database with the following properties set:


You can set these properties at the database level by calling the set
database property procedure, e.g. in ij: CALL
'derby.connection.requireAuthentication', 'true' );

and then shutting down the database engine and reconnecting to the
database, as the derby.connection.requireAuthentication property is a
static property. For a discussion of static vs. dynamic properties,
see the Tuning guide, specifically:

If you are connecting to the database over a network, you should
consider using a non-cleartext password security mechanism, discussed
in the server and admin guide here:

Anyway now that all the necessary properties are set, you need to
connect to the database with the user and password you set, since
authentication is enabled, by adding the appropriate user and password
attributes to the JDBC URL, e.g. in ij:

connect 'jdbc:derby:myDB;user=andrew;password=newderbyuser';

Note that this puts the user by default into the schema of their own
username. e.g. if you create a table foo after you log in, it will be
in the ANDREW schema, i.e. ANDREW.FOO.

You can find further details for setting up user authentication in the
PDF that was linked earlier, and in the manuals, but those are the

Did that help?



    Alexander Trauzzi