Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 91519 invoked from network); 11 Sep 2006 23:28:23 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 11 Sep 2006 23:28:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 36221 invoked by uid 500); 11 Sep 2006 23:28:22 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 36195 invoked by uid 500); 11 Sep 2006 23:28:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 36184 invoked by uid 99); 11 Sep 2006 23:28:22 -0000 Received: from idunn.apache.osuosl.org (HELO idunn.apache.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.84) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:28:22 -0700 Authentication-Results: idunn.apache.osuosl.org smtp.mail=jta@bristowhill.com; spf=pass X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests= Received-SPF: pass (idunn.apache.osuosl.org: domain bristowhill.com designates 66.75.162.136 as permitted sender) Received: from ([66.75.162.136:34209] helo=ms-smtp-04.socal.rr.com) by idunn.apache.osuosl.org (ecelerity 2.1 r(10620)) with ESMTP id D8/60-27976-D11F5054 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:28:30 -0700 Received: from [192.168.15.53] (cpe-72-130-190-172.san.res.rr.com [72.130.190.172]) by ms-smtp-04.socal.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k8BNSE8x006861 for ; Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4505F10E.90108@bristowhill.com> Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2006 16:28:14 -0700 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derby Discussion Subject: Re: 10.2 licensing issue References: <4505EF27.4050600@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <4505EF27.4050600@sun.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Wow! Thanks for the update, Rick. I agree that option #1 (release 10.2 without JDBC 4) is best. -jean Rick Hillegas wrote: > I must report today that the restrictions imposed by the beta JDK > license have not been lifted. > > As you know, the JDK 6 beta license requires a disclaimer that bars the > use of the code for any productive use. This restriction is meant to > forestall binary incompatibilities with the final, GA version of the > JDK. These incompatibilities might arise due to late-breaking changes in > the JDK during its beta cycle. Due to these late-breaking changes, > applications compiled against earlier, beta versions of the JDK could > behave erratically when run against the GA JDK. > > Such a disclaimer would need to appear in the NOTICES file of any Derby > release built using the beta JDK's tools and libraries. This, in turn, > is unacceptable for GA releases of Derby. Therefore at this time we > cannot build a Derby release candidate which includes JDBC4 > drivers--today those drivers can only be built using beta tools and > libraries. For this reason, we, the Derby community must change our > plan to ship imminently an official release of Derby that includes JDBC4. > > I can see two alternatives for us: > > 1. Ship 10.2 on the current schedule but do not include the JDBC4 > drivers. When run on Java SE 6, Derby 10.2 would continue to expose our > JDBC3 implementation. In addition, we would remove JDBC4-specific > documentation from our user guides and prune out the JDBC4-specific > javadoc. > > 2. Delay the current 10.2 schedule until after JDK 6 goes GA. At that > time we could release a version of Derby which includes JDBC4 drivers. > > Given the length of time since 10.1 was released, the uncertainty of the > exact date of JDK 6 shipment, and the number of new features included in > 10.2, I think that (1) is a better plan. Of course, this is up to the > community to decide. > > Regards, > -Rick