Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 33797 invoked from network); 24 Jul 2006 17:08:52 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 24 Jul 2006 17:08:52 -0000 Received: (qmail 78034 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2006 17:08:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 77998 invoked by uid 500); 24 Jul 2006 17:08:50 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 77987 invoked by uid 99); 24 Jul 2006 17:08:50 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:08:50 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=10.0 tests=DNS_FROM_RFC_ABUSE,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST,MANY_EXCLAMATIONS,PLING_PLING X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (asf.osuosl.org: local policy) Received: from [32.97.182.142] (HELO e2.ny.us.ibm.com) (32.97.182.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:08:49 -0700 Received: from d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (d01relay02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.227.234]) by e2.ny.us.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6OH8PgL003959 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:08:25 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (d01av02.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.216]) by d01relay02.pok.ibm.com (8.13.6/NCO/VER7.0) with ESMTP id k6OH8PB2277846 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:08:25 -0400 Received: from d01av02.pok.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k6OH8PFD015940 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:08:25 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (sig-9-48-51-119.mts.ibm.com [9.48.51.119]) by d01av02.pok.ibm.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6OH8NP5015798 for ; Mon, 24 Jul 2006 13:08:24 -0400 Message-ID: <44C4FE84.6090803@sbcglobal.net> Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 10:08:20 -0700 From: Kathey Marsden Reply-To: kmarsdenderby@sbcglobal.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.13) Gecko/20060414 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derby Discussion Subject: Re: !!! Regression Search and Destroy Contest !!! References: <44C00692.40401@sbcglobal.net> <44C11FD8.4070706@gmail.com> <44C4C724.6020106@Sun.COM> In-Reply-To: <44C4C724.6020106@Sun.COM> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N We now have our panel of judges. Thanks to Stan, Rajesh and John for volunteering. Now all we need is an army of users to try their applications and flush all the bugs out of the product and documentation for 10.2. Please take a look and participate. http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/RegressionSearchAndDestroy I was rereading the open source classic, "The Cathedral & the Bazaar" by Eric Raymond this weekend and was struck once again by the lessons of open source. These two relate directly to 10.2 testing I think. #8. Given a large enough beta-tester and co-developer base, almost every problem will be characterized quickly and the fix obvious to someone. #10. If you treat your beta-testers as if they're your most valuable resource, they will respond by becoming your most valuable resource. I believe both of these are very true. Please try 10.2! Kathey