Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 19077 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2006 19:48:00 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 14 Apr 2006 19:48:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 96648 invoked by uid 500); 14 Apr 2006 19:47:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 96616 invoked by uid 500); 14 Apr 2006 19:47:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 96605 invoked by uid 99); 14 Apr 2006 19:47:59 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:47:59 -0700 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of jta@bristowhill.com designates 66.75.162.133 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.75.162.133] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com) (66.75.162.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:47:58 -0700 Received: from [192.168.15.53] (cpe-204-210-23-212.san.res.rr.com [204.210.23.212]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k3EJlaIM010749 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <443FFC58.50704@bristowhill.com> Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 12:47:36 -0700 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.1.fc3 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derby Discussion Subject: [web] site structure updated X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N I checked in a change to the web site that partially addresses issues that Dan Debrunner and Michelle Caisse raised. You'll need to refresh pages in your browser to see these changes. Here's a summary of the basic changes: (1) The "Quick Links" subcategory on the home tab should autoexpand but can't. A forrest feature (FOR-339) will support this but isn't implemented yet. The resolution is to not have a Quick Links subcategory on the home tab, just a simple list. (2) A "Quick Start" entry on the home tab and its own tab is disconcerting. I agree and the resolution is to remove the link from the home tab -- it isn't needed because the home page also links to it. (3) Links on the home tab that are repeated on other tabs (for example, a license link was on the Download tab and an FAQs link was on the Community tab) cause a jump back to the home tab when the page is selected. I agree this behavior is jarring, but don't see a way to avoid it. The best near-term solution is to not repeat links across tabs and to choose carefully where those links should appear. I think "license" and "FAQs" both need increased visibility, so left them on the home tab. I also left "Derby Wiki" on the home tab because the Community tab has quite a few items. (4) Offsite links should open in a new window. I haven't figured out a way to do that in the forrest menu, but am able to in the body of a page; for example, the document links on http://db.apache.org/derby/manuals/index.html open in a new window. The best resolution for now is to remove those links, but for another reason as well: keep the number of items on the home tab few enough that people will notice what's there. Michelle also noted that on the download tab if you click on 10.1.2.1, the forrest menu collapses instead of highlighting 10.1.2.1. I haven't figured this one out yet, but suspect it has something to do with the file type (cgi). I should mention that some of the things I haven't figured out how to do might in fact be possible in forrest, but I just haven't found the right information yet. Thanks for all the feedback -- and please keep it coming. regards, -jean