Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 28948 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2006 19:50:33 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 9 Mar 2006 19:50:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 94811 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2006 19:50:31 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 94771 invoked by uid 500); 9 Mar 2006 19:50:31 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 94760 invoked by uid 99); 9 Mar 2006 19:50:31 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:50:31 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of yeradis@gmail.com designates 64.233.184.194 as permitted sender) Received: from [64.233.184.194] (HELO wproxy.gmail.com) (64.233.184.194) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:50:30 -0800 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i2so575811wra for ; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:50:09 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=W+naoC35ogzi/J5rI66SEz/CNHB6l3K20RGkFE2Ih5SVbLyaEZ7q7xkRvZTytAv06W/Aji5mUWf3CCVCIC7sr/yvtrg1JvxHTNUh13UGAfD7pDlvPcUEchpwxJNSyeocIo5u7DPFaLN2KgIQSwrekm62spAGhDrtdYAwd0eBTQU= Received: by 10.54.136.16 with SMTP id j16mr923412wrd; Thu, 09 Mar 2006 11:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.156.6 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Mar 2006 11:50:09 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 14:50:09 -0500 From: yeradis To: "Derby Discussion" , Stan.Bradbury@gmail.com Subject: Re: derby for dummies ??? In-Reply-To: <44107DAF.8050007@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5688_16398429.1141933809600" References: <44107DAF.8050007@gmail.com> X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N ------=_Part_5688_16398429.1141933809600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hi Stanley thanks for your words and thanks to everybody that is helping me to migrate to the ''derby world'' really THANKS TO EVERY BODY that articles are interesting i'm loading now the url that you give me, the network is having problems with the registration but i suppose that is and interesting article like others that the wonderful people of derby send me the principal problem is that i'm a windows users, and i'm 'acostumbrado' t= o windows tools i mean ALL VISUALLY using the mouse the right click on the gui and then create database , then create table create fields, stablish the types and more making the relation between tables and more visually that is the problem , windows style thad transformed me in a vague db model designer ;-) and derby is killing me by that , is all maked with the keyboard typing all that really for me in this moment is not necesary i'm adapted to windows form (borland too :-p ) really is a safe practice do everything to hand (writing all) but the graphical way is a bit interesting :-p (for me less work) and that is what i need , focus my work in other things my sector require that (goverment directly) and with critical methodoligies really i'm adapted to this way maibe is no the best , but i can't shutdown all the team and less the projects :-s On 3/9/06, Stanley Bradbury wrote: > > yeradis wrote: > > > i'm looking documentations on derby > > with and style of that books appeling to dummies > > > > something like Derby for Dummies :-p > > > > i can't write that article style because i'm a newbie on derby > > i need that > > i'm trying to do that > > i'm had terminated the first chapter called SQL in 10 minutes > > terminating now second called Derby System Tables like a candy > > > > but i'm curious is there a manual similar this? > > if there is please tell me to download it > > > > sorry by my english > > > > derby is killing me :-p ;-) :-DDD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Yeradis - > From the number of responses you have gotten I'd say the people on this > list are your best bet for getting 'Derby for Dummies' type > information. I wrote a pretty basic article introducing Derby last year > - it is available on-line at: > http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/2134/ -- let me know if this is > helpful. > You need to register to view the article but there were no fees the last > time I looked. > > Also, as Rajesh mentioned, take a look at the preliminary drafts of Ch 1 > and Ch 2 of Working With Derby [WWD] - it is intended to get people > using Derby as quickly as possible. It can be downloaded with this > URL: > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12323814/workingwithderby= 0306.pdf > > Please let me know how these sections could be made more helpful. WWD > is still a work in progress and I would greatly appreciate you sharing > your opinions with me. NOTE: The examples in WWD use syntax that is > currently only available in the Derby development trunk (syntax added > for version 10.2). Most the syntax should be supported in the *Version > 10.2 alpha snapshot. *Let me know if you need help converting this to > version 10.1 syntax. > > Lastly, I am very interested in know more about your comment: " > derby is killing me :-p ; " > The 'killing me' experience is exactly what I want to help avoid with > the WWD document. > > > ------=_Part_5688_16398429.1141933809600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline hi Stanley

thanks for your words

and thanks to everybody that is helping me
to migrate to the ''derby world'' really THANKS TO EVERY BODY

that articles are interesting
i'm loading now the url that you give me, the network is having problems with the registration but i suppose that is and interesting article like ot= hers that the wonderful people of derby send me
the principal problem is that i'm a windows users, and i'm 'acostumbrado' t= o windows tools i mean ALL VISUALLY using the mouse
the right click on the gui and then create database , then create table
create fields, stablish the types and more
making the relation between tables and more visually
that is the problem , windows style thad transformed me in a vague db model= designer ;-)

and derby is killing me by that , is all maked with the keyboard typing all=
that really for me in this moment is not necesary
i'm adapted to windows form (borland too :-p )
really is a safe practice do everything to hand (writing all)
but the graphical way is a bit interesting :-p (for me less work)
and that is what i need , focus my work in other things
my sector require that (goverment directly) and with critical methodoligies=
really i'm adapted to this way maibe is no the best , but i can't shutdown = all the team and less the projects :-s




On 3/9/06, Stanley Bradbury <= Stan.Bradbury@gmail.com> wrote:
yeradis wrote:

> i'm looking documentations on derby
> with= and style of that books appeling to dummies
>
> something like= Derby for Dummies :-p
>
> i can't  write that articl= e style because i'm a newbie on derby
> i need that
> i'm trying to do that
> i'm had terminat= ed  the first chapter called SQL in 10 minutes
> terminatin= g now second called  Derby System Tables like a candy
>
= > but i'm curious is there a manual similar this?
> if there is please tell me to download it
>
> sorry by= my english
>
> derby is killing me :-p ;-) :-DDD
>
&g= t;
>
>
>
>
>
Hi Yeradis -
From the num= ber of responses you have gotten I'd say the people on this
list are your best bet for getting 'Derby for Dummies' type
informat= ion.  I wrote a pretty basic article introducing Derby last year<= br>- it is available on-line at:
http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/2134/  -- let me know i= f this is
helpful.
You need to register to view the article but there= were no fees the last
time I looked.

Also, as Rajesh mentioned, = take a look at the preliminary drafts of Ch 1
and Ch 2 of Working With Derby [WWD] - it is intended to get people
= using Derby as quickly as possible.  It can be downloaded with th= is
URL:
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12323814/workingwithderby03= 06.pdf

Please let me know how these sections could be made more = helpful.  WWD
is still a work in progress and I would greatly = appreciate you sharing
your opinions with me.  NOTE:  The examples in WWD = use syntax that is
currently only available in the Derby development tru= nk (syntax added
for version 10.2).  Most the syntax should be= supported in the *Version
10.2 alpha snapshot.  *Let me know if you need help convertin= g this to
version 10.1 syntax.

Lastly,  I am very inter= ested in know more about your comment:     "
de= rby is killing me :-p ; "
The 'killing me' experience is exactly wh= at I want to help avoid with
the WWD document.



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