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Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2006 13:01:52 -0800
From: "David W. Van Couvering" <David.Vancouvering@Sun.COM>
Subject: Re: derby for dummies ???
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Have you looked at SQuirreL?  This is a third-party open source GUI that 
works quite well with Derby.  See http://squirrel-sql.sourceforge.net/

David

yeradis wrote:
> hi Stanley
> 
> thanks for your words
> 
> and thanks to everybody that is helping me
> to migrate to the ''derby world'' really THANKS TO EVERY BODY
> 
> that articles are interesting
> i'm loading now the url that you give me, the network is having problems
> with the registration but i suppose that is and interesting article like 
> others that the wonderful people of derby send me
> the principal problem is that i'm a windows users, and i'm 
> 'acostumbrado' to windows tools i mean ALL VISUALLY using the mouse
> the right click on the gui and then create database , then create table
> create fields, stablish the types and more
> making the relation between tables and more visually
> that is the problem , windows style thad transformed me in a vague db 
> model designer ;-)
> 
> and derby is killing me by that , is all maked with the keyboard typing all
> that really for me in this moment is not necesary
> i'm adapted to windows form (borland too :-p )
> really is a safe practice do everything to hand (writing all)
> but the graphical way is a bit interesting :-p (for me less work)
> and that is what i need , focus my work in other things
> my sector require that (goverment directly) and with critical methodoligies
> really i'm adapted to this way maibe is no the best , but i can't 
> shutdown all the team and less the projects :-s
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 3/9/06, *Stanley Bradbury* <Stan.Bradbury@gmail.com 
> <mailto:Stan.Bradbury@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     yeradis wrote:
> 
>      > i'm looking documentations on derby
>      > with and style of that books appeling to dummies
>      >
>      > something like Derby for Dummies :-p
>      >
>      > i can't  write that article style because i'm a newbie on derby
>      > i need that
>      > i'm trying to do that
>      > i'm had terminated  the first chapter called SQL in 10 minutes
>      > terminating now second called  Derby System Tables like a candy
>      >
>      > but i'm curious is there a manual similar this?
>      > if there is please tell me to download it
>      >
>      > sorry by my english
>      >
>      > derby is killing me :-p ;-) :-DDD
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>      >
>     Hi Yeradis -
>      From the number of responses you have gotten I'd say the people on
>     this
>     list are your best bet for getting 'Derby for Dummies' type
>     information.  I wrote a pretty basic article introducing Derby last year
>     - it is available on-line at:
>     http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/2134/  -- let me know if this is
>     helpful.
>     You need to register to view the article but there were no fees the last
>     time I looked.
> 
>     Also, as Rajesh mentioned, take a look at the preliminary drafts of
>     Ch 1
>     and Ch 2 of Working With Derby [WWD] - it is intended to get people
>     using Derby as quickly as possible.  It can be downloaded with this
>     URL:
>     http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12323814/workingwithderby0306.pdf
> 
>     Please let me know how these sections could be made more helpful.  WWD
>     is still a work in progress and I would greatly appreciate you sharing
>     your opinions with me.  NOTE:  The examples in WWD use syntax that is
>     currently only available in the Derby development trunk (syntax added
>     for version 10.2).  Most the syntax should be supported in the *Version
>     10.2 alpha snapshot.  *Let me know if you need help converting this to
>     version 10.1 syntax.
> 
>     Lastly,  I am very interested in know more about your comment:     "
>     derby is killing me :-p ; "
>     The 'killing me' experience is exactly what I want to help avoid with
>     the WWD document.
> 
> 
> 

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