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From yeradis <yera...@gmail.com>
Subject for beginners (like me in the derby wolrd )and who want here is the easy way to create a DB - Open Office and Derby ;-)
Date Wed, 08 Mar 2006 19:37:09 GMT
OpenOffice and JDBC for data access
well i'm new here in the use of derby engine
and i'm a windows user adapted to the windows way (windows , frames buttons
and more, far away from the console)
and my starting point was crude because i'm a windows slave :-p
well i was looking for a GUI to create my db , my tables fields and more
i was looking for the easiest and i think is the open office the way
here are the step to use open office and derby

the url :=
http://www.eactscongenitaldb.org/docs/OpenOffice_and_JDBC_for_data_access
and the article
sorry by my english i'm cuban
ah and these work on windows too
i'm workin on the windows version for the open office version 2
OpenOffice and JDBC for data access From EACTS Congenital Database

It is possible to access the database directly from OpenOffice, using JDBC
connection. To do it, take the following steps.

   1. Backup your data. See: data
backup<http://www.eactscongenitaldb.org/docs/Data_backup>.

   2. Download and install OpenOffice 1.9 (beta) or newer. You can get it
   from [1] <http://www.openoffice.org/>. Please note that this
   instruction will not work with OpenOffice 1.x. You need version at
   least 1.9.
   3. Download Derby from
   http://incubator.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html
   4. From downloaded derby archive extract file named *derby.jar* and
   place it somewhere on the hard disk. Remember where you put it.
   5. Run OpenOffice. Open tools->Options. Go to OpenOffice.org->Java.
   Click on "Class path" button. Click on "Add archive". Find and select the
   *derby.jar* file and press "Open". Press OK in Class Path window.
   Press OK in options window.
   6. Open File->New->Database
   7. Select "Connect to an existing database" and choose "JDBC"
   database. Press Next.
   8. In the "Datasource URL" type "derby:" and then (without space) the
   DataCollectionSoftware folder for data. It's normally named
   "EactsCongenitalDatabase" and placed in your home directory. It should look
   like this:

   jdbc:derby:c:\myfolder\EactsCongenitalDatabase

   9. In the "JDBC Driver Class" type exactly as shown below:

   org.apache.derby.jdbc.EmbeddedDriver

   10. Press "Next"
   11. You don't need to type in the user name. Press "Next"
   12. Press "Finish"
   13. Type in the file name, for example "eacts_direct". Press "Save"
   14. Click on "Tables" on the left side. You should see the list of
   tables in the database.

*Warning!* You can easily damage the database by changing its contents
directly!

Above configuration was tested only on
GNU/Linux<http://www.eactscongenitaldb.org/docs/GNU/Linux>.


*Please note:* Only one program can access the database folder at a time.
This means that you can't open OpenOffice Base and EACTS Congenital Database
at the same time.



On 3/7/06, yeradis <yeradis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> thanks for your words
> it's true
> at the end the speed is almost the same and coding directly in sql is best
> i just try to pass to this technology easily because for me now in this
> moment is easily digest a graphical model like you mentioned than digest a
> text model
> the thing is i have to show the advantages of all this derby tech but
> what is the easy way to explain all  this to people that only now
> something similar to access or sql server or visio for create DB ?
>
> i'm looking for a tool that easely i can say this is the table this are
> the fields and this is the field type
> and these are the behavoirs for this table and that fields
>
> Erwin is a great tool but the version i had is no updated to support derby
> i suposse there is a new version
> but here from cuba is to difficult adquire some things
>
> you know the laws  vs cuba
>
> in this moment i'm using squirrel SQL
> is a great option FOR ME
> not for other in the team :-(
>
> but
> thanks again for your words
>
> and whats is the url of your own bussisnes ???
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/7/06, derby@segel.com <derby@segel.com> wrote:
> >
> >  I think for the amount of work that you have, and at your level of
> > skill, you may want to spend some time developing SQL by hand.
> >
> >
> >
> > The reason I suggest this is that you will have a better understanding
> > of what is your database as well as the syntax behind your "point and click"
> > world.
> >
> > Consider that the majority of your time is spent on developing the model
> > and not the syntax, you're not really going to save any time.  Your comment
> > about "slowing you down" and spending time elsewhere is a point of concern.
> >  Once you learn the syntax of SQL, you should be a lot more efficient.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would recommend that if you're looking for a good "logical DBA" tool,
> > then consider Erwin. The only downside is that its now being sold by CA and
> > they are charging somewhere north of $3,000 USD.
> >
> > Before people balk at the price tag, consider what you get for the
> > money. As a professional DBA/developer, its really a great tool.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm not running Erwin, yet, because I recently went back to running my
> > own shop after leaving IBM. But it is on my wish list and will be one of my
> > first major purchases…
> >
> > But then again, I'm being called on to support IDS/DB2/Oracle/Sybase/
> > etc …for various customers. So having a graphical model for documentation is
> > a good thing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just my .02 cents….
> >   ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* yeradis [mailto:yeradis@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:43 AM
> > *To:* Derby Discussion
> > *Subject:* Re: easy way to create a DB with multiple tables exists ?
> >
> >
> >
> > hi
> > thanks for your comments
> > that's true
> > i can use that tools
> > in fact i dont use that tools
> > i'm building the tables and others using pure sql
> > but this is a slow way
> > creating the tables and more with sql is more fast but the thing to do
> > after . a i mean convert some variables and others decrease the speed that i
> > need
> >
> > really i need to program only waht i need like procedures views funtions
> > packages queries and other
> > like i do now ,and if is visually better , with this way i go fast
> > only waste my development time in other things that really have the
> > trouble
> >
> > thanks again to you
> > and sorry by my english i'm cuban
> >
> > On 3/7/06, *Rhys Campbell* <rhys.campbell@da-systems.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > Just an idea…
> >
> >
> >
> > You could build your database graphically in SQL server, script out the
> > database and then translate the SQL into something that Derby could
> > understand. I have done this in other situations but not with Derby. Not
> > ideal but it may remove most of the effort.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have used tools that convert MS SQL database SQL into Oracle SQL.
> > Maybe there is a tool like this for Derby?
> >
> >
> >
> > Personally I'd make the effort to learn SQL better so you can write all
> > the SQL yourself. I find this easier than having to adjust to various
> > graphical tools.
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Rhys
> >
> >
> >  ------------------------------
> >
> > *From:* yeradis [mailto: yeradis@gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* 07 March 2006 12:15
> > *To:* derby-user@db.apache.org
> > *Subject:* easy way to create a DB with multiple tables exists ?
> >
> >
> >
> > hi
> > first all sorry by my english
> >
> > i'm a developer who want to start using de derby core to develop my apps
> > but i'm a windows user/developer
> > that have the mania of use sql server , ms access and that tools
> >
> > and i'm having trouble to adaptate me to use the rustic way to build and
> > maintin the derby database
> >
> > there is an easy way to build an maintan a derby database???
> > i mean a graphical IDE like ms access
> >
> > i founded iSQL that is more easy than ij but it is rustic
> > the workbench of ibm don't work with embedded databse
> >
> > and realy i want to use derby core
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > and again sorry by my english
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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