Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 23072 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2005 15:43:09 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Dec 2005 15:43:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 95185 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2005 15:43:07 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 95008 invoked by uid 500); 12 Dec 2005 15:43:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 94997 invoked by uid 99); 12 Dec 2005 15:43:06 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:43:06 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of jta@bristowhill.com designates 66.75.162.135 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.75.162.135] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com) (66.75.162.135) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:43:05 -0800 Received: from [192.168.15.53] (cpe-204-210-23-212.san.res.rr.com [204.210.23.212]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jBCFggV7029117 for ; Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:42:42 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <439D9A71.4060905@bristowhill.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:42:41 -0800 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2-1.3.2 (X11/20050324) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derby Discussion Subject: Re: Why are classpath databases always read-only ? References: <224f32340512080309s75d9cb83xf8fbd1ca9d8ee172@mail.gmail.com> <200512101318.21558.derby@segel.com> <224f32340512101415r752e3d7bpaeec24eab2857691@mail.gmail.com> <200512120856.55486.msegel@segel.com> In-Reply-To: <200512120856.55486.msegel@segel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Michael Segel wrote: > On Saturday 10 December 2005 4:15 pm, Thomas Dudziak wrote: > >>On 12/10/05, Michael Segel wrote: >> >>>So, coding is now ugly? >> >>No, it simply should not necessary in this case, configuration would >>suffice. And I would have to code it whenever I want to have this >>functionality, so I would have to come up with solutions for, say, >>Spring, for EJB, for Hibernate, etc. etc. etc. >> >> >>>Perhaps you should learn how to code rather than configure? >>>Or am I now a dinosaur ;-) >> >>Or perhaps you should learn to be a bit more polite ? >> >>Tom > > Polite? > > Perhaps if you were more polite in your statement, you would get a more polite > response from me. ;-) Michael, I find nothing impolite about Tom's statement, and I do find the statement that he (or anyone else) should learn how to code presumptuous and impolite. Besides, resorting to personal jabs tends to detract from the validity of any technical opinions that are stated. Helpful email guidelines are here: http://www.apache.org/dev/contrib-email-tips.html On another Apache list Karl Fogel recently posted a link to this book "Producing Open Source Software" -- http://producingoss.com/ . It has an excellent writeup on setting the tone for lists -- everything from making sure that discussions happen on list to nipping rudeness in the bud: http://producingoss.com/html-chunk/setting-tone.html I recommend his book highly. regards, -jean