Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 75406 invoked from network); 17 Nov 2005 01:31:58 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur.apache.org with SMTP; 17 Nov 2005 01:31:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 91720 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2005 01:31:57 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-db-derby-user-archive@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 91375 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2005 01:31:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact derby-user-help@db.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: "Derby Discussion" Delivered-To: mailing list derby-user@db.apache.org Received: (qmail 91364 invoked by uid 99); 17 Nov 2005 01:31:56 -0000 Received: from asf.osuosl.org (HELO asf.osuosl.org) (140.211.166.49) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:31:56 -0800 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=10.0 tests=SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (asf.osuosl.org: domain of jta@bristowhill.com designates 66.75.162.133 as permitted sender) Received: from [66.75.162.133] (HELO ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com) (66.75.162.133) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:33:30 -0800 Received: from [192.168.15.53] (cpe-204-210-23-212.san.res.rr.com [204.210.23.212]) by ms-smtp-01-eri0.socal.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with ESMTP id jAH1VW7t004496 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:31:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <437BDD74.7090705@bristowhill.com> Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:31:32 -0800 From: "Jean T. Anderson" Reply-To: jta@bristowhill.com User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2-1.3.2 (X11/20050324) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Derby Discussion Subject: Re: Derby and portability References: <437B58A3.6010506@sun.com> <437BD555.4040503@debrunners.com> In-Reply-To: <437BD555.4040503@debrunners.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org X-Spam-Rating: minotaur.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Daniel John Debrunner wrote: > Oyvind.Bakksjo@Sun.COM wrote: > >>The Derby Project Charter (on the web site) states that it should be >>"Pure Java", but it does not say anything about portability for anything >>but the _code_. >> >>Can one, for example, safely assume that the on-disk database format is >>platform-independent? I have read it somewhere, but I don't see it in >>the charter, so do I have a guarantee that this is an invariant? > > > The on-disk database format is, by design, portable, actually in Java > it's very hard to do anything else. > > You know it's one of the two things that I take for granted with Derby, > because of Java, and always forget to tell people of this useful > benefit. The other is that Unicode is supported and is the only > character set supported, as it's a super-set of all character sets. > > Interestingly both of these useful facts are omitted from the > documentation. :-( logged DERBY-711 to get this into the docs. -jean