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From Katherine Marsden <kmarsdende...@sbcglobal.net>
Subject Re: DERBY 10.9.2 release, was: DERBY release
Date Fri, 01 Feb 2013 17:09:09 GMT
On 1/31/2013 10:19 AM, Rick Hillegas wrote:
> Hi Lily,
> I think you're talking about a 10.9.2 release. Can you let us know 
> which parts of the release instructions seem more complicated? I can 
> help improve the instructions if you let me know which parts are most 
> confusing.
I think in terms of the documentation (and the process)  I noticed 
several  major themes in my failed attempts to put a release together.  
I am sorry I did not take better notes in detail.

1) The process seems fragile on Windows.
DERBY-5461, DERBY-5463, DERBY-5460 and difficulty integrating an md5sum 
tool combined with the chaining of steps together and problems 
restarting if something fail due to the  made my build something of a 
patch work effort, but I did get it out  by working around these 
issues.  On the publication, there is was trouble on windows due to line 
endings. I don't really like the fact that it tried to svn commit 
without letting me review my change.

2)  It would be good to make the documentation more concise.
It is somewhat  long, winding and repetitive. There is not a clear 
numbering system for the steps and  I found I would struggle through 
with a step that was briefly mentioned only to find I should have done 
it later and was  given more detailed  information.   The interleaving 
of instructions from old releases makes it confusing too. I think it 
would be ok to just take this out prior to 10.9, but have to admit 
sometimes having the old instructions was helpful in moving forward.

3)The process itself seems more complicated and extensive.
  Maybe this is again just a function of one and two and the fact that 
every time I got an afternoon to look at it, I would collide with 
something else,  but the process itself seems to have become more 
complicated and extensive. (was it 22 pages vs 4 or 5 when I did a 10.5 

I would say at least stay away from Windows if trying to make a release, 
but I don't think  that is an option for Lily.



> Thanks,
> -Rick
> On 1/31/13 9:51 AM, Lily Wei wrote:
>> Hi:
>> The release process and procedure had definitely turns out to be more 
>> involved than I participated. Compare to the previous release I did, 
>> I have to say I am having problem just follow the instruction.
>> Derby is a wonderful product and technology to be more involved. 
>> Therefore, I am seeking help from Derby developers. If I can do the 
>> build for, can someone else help me with publishing and rest 
>> of the tasks? For a minimum, we definitely should have clear 
>> instruction for more Derby developers to follow. Hopefully, easy to 
>> follow steps and procedure can proceed most of the time.
>> Any suggestion is welcome.
>> Thank you so much,
>> Lily

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