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From "Mike Matrigali (Commented) (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (DERBY-5443) reduce number of times sequence updater does it work on user thread rather than nested user thread.
Date Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:26:40 GMT

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Mike Matrigali commented on DERBY-5443:
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here is more detail and expanding to 4 cases:
escalate cases for nested transaction doing an update to syssequences to get
another block of numbers:
1) nested transaction blocks on write lock held by parent because parent
   did create sequence.  This is actually an undetected deadlock, and will
   return a timeout.
2) nested transaction blocks on read lock held by parent because parent
   did a read committed or higher isolation level read of syssequences.
   this is actually an undetected deadlock.
3) nested transaction blocks on read lock held by another transaction
   that did a read committed or higher isolation leval read of syssequences.
4) nested transaction blocks on a write lock by another nested transaction doing
   a block of numbers update.


comments/actions/changes for each case, note that current behavior is
to not wait any amount of time, instead returning timeout instantly if
lock can not be granted.:
1) I think it is ok to escalate, would be best if we did not wait any time
   on the lock.  I think this does not lead to incorrect behavior because
   it is a create ddl situation.
2) escalating leads to incorrect behavior.  not clear yet best to do.
   If all user direct reads of syssequences were dirty reads then problem
   does not exist.  If we could figure out difference between 1 and 2 in
   the code I would be fine with throwing a timeout error and nesting it
   with an error indicating user scans of syssequences may cause sequence
   operations to fail with this error.  And add some documentation warning
   not to do syssequence scans and if necessary do them a read uncommitted.
3) For this case would definitely like code to wait for normal timeout time
   then just throw the error, don't escalate.  It is not a undetected deadlock,
   and could just throw same error as 2 if that pathe were chosen.
4) This case should not escalate.  It should wait a normal amount of time
   and throw an error.  Updates should be happening fast in other threads and
   committing often.  Should see if we can commit nosync this transaction to
   make it even faster (maybe we already do - not sure).  The key here is to
   make the wait only be this case, not #1.
                
> reduce number of times sequence updater does it work on user thread rather than nested
user thread.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-5443
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-5443
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: SQL
>    Affects Versions: 10.9.0.0
>            Reporter: Mike Matrigali
>            Priority: Minor
>         Attachments: blockingDDL.sql
>
>
> Currently the Sequence updater tries to do the system catalog update as part of the user
thread, but in a nested user transaction.  When this works
> all is well as the nested user transaction is immediately committed and thus the throughput
of all threads depending on allocating sequences is
> optimized.  
> In order to be able to commit the nested writable transaction independently the lock
manager must treat the parent and nested transactions as two
> independent transactions and locks held by the parent will thus block the child.  And
in effect any lock that is blocked by the parent is a deadlock,
> but the lock manager does not understand this relationship and thus only will timeout
and not recognize the implicit deadlock.
> Only 2 cases come to mind of the parent blocking the child in this manner for sequences:
> 1) ddl like create done in transaction followed by inserts into the table requiring sequence
update.
> 2) users doing jdbc data dictionary lookups in a multistatment transaction resulting
in holding locks on the system catalog rows and subsequently
>     doing inserts into the table requiring sequence updates.
> The sequence updater currently never waits for a lock in the nested transaction and assumes
any blocked lock is this parent deadlock case.  It
> then falls back on doing the update in tranaction and then the system catalog lock remains
until the user transaction commits which could then
> hold hostage all other inserts into the table.  This is ok in the above 2 cases as there
is not any other choice since the user transaction is already
> holding the system hostage.  
> The problem is the case where it was not a deadlock but just another thread trying to
do the sequence update.  In this case the thread should
> not be getting locks on the user thread.  
> I am not sure best way to address this project but here are some ideas:
> 1) enhance lock manager to recognize the deadlock and then change to code to somehow
do an immediately deadlock check for internal 
>     nested transactions, no matter what the system default is.  Then the code should
go ahead and use the system wait timeout on this lock
>     and only fall over to using user transaction for deadlock (or maybe even throw a
new "self deadlock" error that would only be possible for
>     internal transactions).
> 2) somehow execute the internal system catalog update as part of a whole different transaction
in the system.   Would need a separate context.
>     Sort of like the background daemon threads.  Then no self deadlock is possible and
it could just go ahead and wait.  The downside is that then
>     the code to "wait" for a new sequence becomes more complicated as it has to wait
for an event from another thread.  But seems like it could
>     designed with locks/synchonization blocks somehow.  
> 3) maybe add another lock synchronization that would only involve threads updating the
sequences.  So first an updater would request the
>     sequence updater lock (with a key specific to the table and a new type) and it could
just wait on it.  It should never be held by parent
>     transaction.  Then it would still need the catalog row lock to do the update.  I
think with proper ordering this would insure that blocking on
>     the catalog row lock would only happen in the self deadlock case.  
> Overall this problem is less important as the size of the chunk of sequence is tuned
properly for the application, and ultimately best if derby
> autotuned the chunk.  There is a separate jira for auto tuning: DERBY-5295

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