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From Rick Hillegas <rick.hille...@oracle.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] release
Date Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:01:55 GMT

I am tempted to vote -1 based on DERBY-5430. The 10.8.2 release 
candidates produce a deadlock in NsTest. That deadlock was not seen in 
10.8.1 or earlier releases.

However, I do not have any confidence in NsTest as a release barrier. 
This test suffers from a number of defects which severely cripple its 

1) No-one seems to understand this test.

2) The test is not being run in its preferred configuration. The "Ns" in 
NsTest means "Network Server" I think, but as far as I can see the test 
is only being run embedded.

3) The test produces reams of errors. I don't think we know how to 
strain signal out of this noise. The sheer volume of errors suggests 
that the test is badly written and that it does not model a sensible 

4) The person who runs this test (Myrna) has lost confidence in its 
ability to disclose regressions, as evidenced by the downgrading of the 
urgency of DERBY-5430.

I do not think that we should use NsTest as a release barrier again 
until we address its defects.


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