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From siddharth srivastava <akssps...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Quick Start guide for new developers
Date Tue, 19 Apr 2011 14:37:18 GMT

Thanks a lot for your suggestions. I have made the changes, please have a

Lily Wei wrote:

 I have a few points about this topic:
>     1. Can provide the supporting version for hardware and software that
> Derby support? i.e. The version of junit etc.

I have added the required software versions, but which hardware versions to
add. Should I add the minimum hardware requirements that are required to run
java or ant.
I have used Derby successfully on N900(maemo) some weeks ago, and I was also
looking for a place to add this information somewhere on Derby wiki if it is

    2. How to verify the build is a good one? Is the some minimum tests we
> recommend developer to run? i.e. SimpleTest

Is the SimpleTest the only test we recommend ? or there some other too which
cover a few other aspects of Derby too.
(May be for EmbeddedXA also?)

     3. Can we have a FAQ page to post potential FAQ? i.e. point to all the
> email list they can use

Added this.

Dave Wrote:
> To simplify things, it would be nice if the ant build did
> java -XX*:*MaxPermSize <http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/MaxPermSize>
> =512m junit*.*textui*.TestRunner *
> org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.suites.All
> in some task (adding the appropriate classpath entries) for the user.

For the time being I have added a note in the guide regarding this. I have
also added the link to the Eclipse and Netbeans tutorial

Knut wrote:

There is an ant target called "junit-all-codeline-jars" that's supposed
> to work like that. I haven't tried it myself, though.d

I haven't tried it hence I haven't it to the tutorial yet (I have used junit
all only)
I will try it in coming days and would add to the tutorial appropriately.

Meanwhile, I have noticed that, BUILDING.html contains the link to
junit.orgfor downloading JUnit 3.8.2. But as far as I have looked into
junit.org doesn't contain this version. It is available on their sourceforge
repository. Is it intentional ?

At last, what would be an appropriate place to link this tutorial ?

I was thinking of http://db.apache.org/derby/quick_start.html
But in my opinion, we should refactor the menu there to be something like

* Derby Users: Quick Start
* Derby Developers: Quick Start


Siddharth Srivastava

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